Nice gold tulwar

Andy Davis · 23rd January 2006, 10:40 AM

Hello all
Three new tulwars to go on but will start with arguably the best.
Any ideas on period and specifically the armours mark/engraving whatever?
Blade seems closer to a Persian shamshir
Cheers
Andy

Andy Davis · 23rd January 2006, 10:43 AM

Very short blade and light construction. Hilt silver coverd, which doesnt show too well on the photos.
Looks like the Southern Indian styles but never encounterd one with such slim quillions.

Andy Davis · 23rd January 2006, 10:45 AM

The more serious weapon of war this, with heavy blade and large hilt. Not especially the banded decoration to the grip.

Andy Davis · 23rd January 2006, 07:26 PM

By the way, the iron beneath the gold on the first sword, seems to have deteriorated a little and gold is becoming lose. Any ideas on how to fix this, without making a long term mess, as happens with old varnish.

Andy Davis · 24th January 2006, 06:13 PM

It has been suggested by a friend that I may try using a PVA mix, such as Unibond that dries clear. Any suggestions to that? "Like oh my god no!!! Dont do that"
I need advice people, please

Cheers
Andy

Tim Simmons · 24th January 2006, 06:23 PM

Andy, PVA is good as it drys clear and if reversible being water soluble. Any hamfisted work can be soaked and no damage done, a little more tricky with fabrics and other very delicate things. Tim

RSWORD · 24th January 2006, 11:42 PM

It is a difficult thing to combat when the hilt is as profusely koftgari'ed as the example you post. When the base metal begins to rust, you risk either sealing in moisture if you attempt to do that to preserve which could cause further rusting and any attempts to do anything else could remove more of the goldwork. Your best bet is to keep the hilt dry and in low humidity going forward to maintain it.

23rd January 2006, 10:40 AM	#1
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Nice gold tulwar Hello all Three new tulwars to go on but will start with arguably the best. Any ideas on period and specifically the armours mark/engraving whatever? Blade seems closer to a Persian shamshir Cheers Andy Attached Images

23rd January 2006, 10:43 AM	#2
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Second tulwar Very short blade and light construction. Hilt silver coverd, which doesnt show too well on the photos. Looks like the Southern Indian styles but never encounterd one with such slim quillions. Attached Images

23rd January 2006, 10:45 AM	#3
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Third tulwar The more serious weapon of war this, with heavy blade and large hilt. Not especially the banded decoration to the grip. Attached Images

23rd January 2006, 07:26 PM	#4
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Asny ideas on protecting gold By the way, the iron beneath the gold on the first sword, seems to have deteriorated a little and gold is becoming lose. Any ideas on how to fix this, without making a long term mess, as happens with old varnish.

24th January 2006, 06:13 PM	#5
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	OK ill answer myself It has been suggested by a friend that I may try using a PVA mix, such as Unibond that dries clear. Any suggestions to that? "Like oh my god no!!! Dont do that" I need advice people, please Cheers Andy

24th January 2006, 06:23 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,768	Andy, PVA is good as it drys clear and if reversible being water soluble. Any hamfisted work can be soaked and no damage done, a little more tricky with fabrics and other very delicate things. Tim

24th January 2006, 11:42 PM	#7
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	It is a difficult thing to combat when the hilt is as profusely koftgari'ed as the example you post. When the base metal begins to rust, you risk either sealing in moisture if you attempt to do that to preserve which could cause further rusting and any attempts to do anything else could remove more of the goldwork. Your best bet is to keep the hilt dry and in low humidity going forward to maintain it.