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Old 4th April 2013, 05:54 AM   #1
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Default Javanese or Bugis kris?
I found this blade in a Javanese sheath recently. Got it from a Javanese friend living in Java. No hit and mendak. Could it be Javanese Kris?
Thanks in advance for your kind help...mykeris
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Old 4th April 2013, 06:01 AM   #2
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Old 4th April 2013, 09:39 AM   #3
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Not Buginese for sure, rather Balinese touch but probably Javanese kamardikan with pamor keleng? (well-made, looks like the work from empu Sukamdi). Other opinions are welcome.
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Old 4th April 2013, 09:54 AM   #4
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A new made Malela blade. Actually the question is, where it was made, Malaysia or Madura. The answer could be the dress.
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Old 4th April 2013, 10:02 AM   #5
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thanks Jean, agreed with you, a very well tailored 'keleng' kris. almost similar to malayan malela krises but a little bit different.
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Old 4th April 2013, 10:36 AM   #6
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Of course you know all the answers about it. Why ask then?
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Old 4th April 2013, 11:56 AM   #7
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Gustav: Its ot Malay for sure. Bali or Javanese? would you know?tq in advance.
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Old 5th April 2013, 09:07 AM   #8
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Of course you know all the answers about it. Why ask then?
its new and it looks nice for sure.
its neither java or bali. its the original style of the maker ofcourse.mix style.
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Old 5th April 2013, 06:59 PM   #9
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thanks ferrylaki for your opinion.
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Old 6th April 2013, 03:10 AM   #10
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Madura or East Jawa.

Solo is an outside possibility, but unlikely.
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Old 6th April 2013, 09:19 AM   #11
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Hum, interesting blade, we have got a full array of opinions concerning its area of origin! At least do we agree that it was recenty made?
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Old 6th April 2013, 05:49 PM   #12
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Hum, interesting blade, we have got a full array of opinions concerning its area of origin! At least do we agree that it was recenty made?
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Actually my opinion was Madura, Ferrylaki's opinion was neither Java or Bali, Alans opinion was Madura or East Java. So the array isn't that big at all.
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Old 7th April 2013, 01:40 PM   #13
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Actually my opinion was Madura, Ferrylaki's opinion was neither Java or Bali, Alans opinion was Madura or East Java. So the array isn't that big at all.
Sorry Gustav, but your opinion in post #4 was Malaysia or Madura, and Mykeris's opinion was Java or Bali.
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Old 7th April 2013, 01:47 PM   #14
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Sorry Gustav, but your opinion in post #4 was Malaysia or Madura, and Mykeris's opinion was Java or Bali.
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Jean, the second and third sentence in my answer is "Actually the question is, where it was made, Malaysia or Madura.The answer could be the dress." The point is the third sentence.

I think, you hardly would see kerisses coming out of Malaysia in a javanese dress, especially with characteristics of a Malela blade.
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Old 9th April 2013, 11:34 PM   #15
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Gustav: Its ot Malay for sure. Bali or Javanese? would you know?tq in advance.
I suppose, it meens "Its not Malay for sure."

I would say, its more Malay then this one:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3005

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Old 13th April 2013, 01:31 PM   #16
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both are well made Maduran or East Javan copies of what could be authentic Malay malela keris. Very widespread phenomenon to tap the Malaysian and Singaporean market
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