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Old 21st November 2013, 10:49 PM   #1
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Hi, anyone have pics or books reference on all the islamic axe form ? not only axe head but olso the form of the staff ...

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Old 21st November 2013, 11:22 PM   #2
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Hi there,

If you mean Arabian axe forms, read up on the jerz from the Musandam region of Oman It's been discussed on the forum before (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...0&postcount=13)

Otherwise there are the Indo-Persian axe forms eventually adopted by Ottomans as well.

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Old 22nd November 2013, 05:54 AM   #3
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Hi, anyone have pics or books reference on all the islamic axe form ? not only axe head but olso the form of the staff ...

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You can see quite a few varieties here.
http://www.pinterest.com/samuraianti...ammer-and-axe/
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Old 25th November 2013, 08:30 AM   #4
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Hi, anyone have pics or books reference on all the islamic axe form ? not only axe head but olso the form of the staff ...

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Salaams BerberDagger~ For references I suggest The Craft Heritage of Oman by Richardson and Dorr and our own thread already mentioned at post #13 on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=jerz

I have been trying to get an exhibit from Musandam that is claimed to be a wootz head Jerz... and of the battle axe size about the size of a mans hand... much bigger than the usual quite small forms.

I also understand that the curator at the Al Ain Museum has a treatise on the subject of Jers axes and based on quite a collection though as yet I have not seen it...

Further axes can be seen on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=wallace

A brilliant thread!

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Old 25th November 2013, 09:55 AM   #5
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Salaams BerberDagger~ For references I suggest The Craft Heritage of Oman by Richardson and Dorr and our own thread already mentioned at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showp...90&postcount=13

I have been trying to get an exhibit from Musandam that is claimed to be a wootz head Jerz... and of the battle axe size about the size of a mans hand... much bigger than the usual quite small forms.

I also understand that the curator at the Al Ain Museum has a treatise on the subject of Jers axes and based on quite a collection though as yet I have not seen it...

Further axes can be seen on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...LACE+COLLECTION A brilliant thread!

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You're Links don't seem to be working correctly Ibrahim?



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Old 25th November 2013, 10:45 AM   #6
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You're Links don't seem to be working correctly Ibrahim?



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Salaams spiral ~ Fixed now Sir !
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Old 25th November 2013, 11:07 AM   #7
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Spiral there does not seem to be a single treatise. In any book on Islamic arms and armour you tend to get a couple of pages devoted to maces and axes but Ive never come across a work that discusses the evolution of the weapon over time for the different cultures and includes the major examples.

If one were produced I would be first on the order list. Judging from the pin interest pages Im not alone in being very interested in these types of weapons.


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Old 25th November 2013, 05:11 PM   #8
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Salaams spiral ~ Fixed now Sir !
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Bonjour Ibrahiim!

Indeed! Thank you!

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Old 25th November 2013, 05:13 PM   #9
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Spiral there does not seem to be a single treatise. In any book on Islamic arms and armour you tend to get a couple of pages devoted to maces and axes but Ive never come across a work that discusses the evolution of the weapon over time for the different cultures and includes the major examples.

If one were produced I would be first on the order list. Judging from the pin interest pages Im not alone in being very interested in these types of weapons.


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Hi Horsa, I think your repley is for Berber Dagger rather than myself?

But thank you anyway!

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