Hungarian Sword... Naaah!

ariel · 18th March 2010, 04:46 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
This sword is described as an Honor Sword of a famous ( and, indeed, astonishing, Hussar, Count Hadik, see Wikipedia)
The problem is that Hadik's sword is a venerated treasure exhibited in Budapest, and they would be unlikely to unload it thru E-Bay :-)
I did a quick research: apparently, copies of this sword are sold by Weaponsedge
See here:
http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?
action=display&board=swordreviews&thread=14394&pag e=1#2
42116
Well, I contacted the seller and gently asked whether he was aware of the fact that his item was a replica. He answered: yes, he was. But he told me that all of the Hadik's swords available were replicas and that it would be unreasonable to think otherwise. Therefore, he was not obligated to provide full description.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!!!!!!!!

Lew · 18th March 2010, 05:14 PM

Ariel

A rare austrian 1760 General Hadik honor cavalry sword . This is a very rare genuine exemple of Hadik sword used in the seven years war.

Rare and genuine?

This guy is full of you know what!

Martin Lubojacky · 18th March 2010, 05:29 PM

This is, fairly said, very incorrect dealing...

asomotif · 18th March 2010, 08:10 PM

Hmm..

He is honest about being dishonest.
Honestly where is the honnor in that.

Makes you think about his other items too.

I have hardly any knowledge on these old European swords.
Really , I would not have guessed this was/is a replica.
When where they made ?

ariel · 18th March 2010, 10:05 PM

Check the second link: copy it in its entirety and put it in the browser.
I also know next to nothing about European weapons, but my antennae twitched and I spent 10 seconds on the Internet "researching" the sword.
Well, 15 people bid up to $960: tells you that there are lazy suckers born every second!

Norman McCormick · 18th March 2010, 10:12 PM

Hi,
The "used" appearance is somewhat at odds with the sellers "honest affirmation" that it is a replica? Caveat Emptor indeed!
Regards,
Norman.

katana · 19th March 2010, 03:03 PM

Whom ever 'antiqued' this sword made a few obvious mistakes

Redone Ariel's link

http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/i...&page=1#242116

Regards David

Michael Blalock · 19th March 2010, 04:04 PM

Professional shill bidders at the end I think. The seller must have thought it was going to go too cheap and had his cronies bid it up. One of them, with a rating of zero has bid on 84 items in the last 30 days.

kronckew · 19th March 2010, 08:24 PM

i have one of those replicas, bought it just before the sword ban on new curved swords over a half metre went into effect (i panicked). was looking for a replica 1796 LC sabre, but couldn't find one in stock...

actually a fairly well made sword. nice decorator. as noted in the linked review above it's a bit blade heavy.
brass castings on mine were fairly well finished, leather work well done. no cracks noted. blade unsharpened. decorations in fuller laser cut.

i thought it was worth what i paid for it. (roughly the same as in the linked article above, converted to UK £'s)

the ebay one seems to have been fairly well distressed in a fairly crude attempt to antique it. it's been rode hard and put away wet...

i'm glad to see that one in such poor condition is worth so much, mine must be worth at least double that

Dmitry · 22nd April 2010, 12:10 AM

An acquaintance bought a rapier from this dealer 2 months ago, and the dealer all but disappeared upon receiving the money. So did the rapier.
Caveat emptor!

18th March 2010, 04:46 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Hungarian Sword... Naaah! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT This sword is described as an Honor Sword of a famous ( and, indeed, astonishing, Hussar, Count Hadik, see Wikipedia) The problem is that Hadik's sword is a venerated treasure exhibited in Budapest, and they would be unlikely to unload it thru E-Bay :-) I did a quick research: apparently, copies of this sword are sold by Weaponsedge See here: http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgi? action=display&board=swordreviews&thread=14394&pag e=1#2 42116 Well, I contacted the seller and gently asked whether he was aware of the fact that his item was a replica. He answered: yes, he was. But he told me that all of the Hadik's swords available were replicas and that it would be unreasonable to think otherwise. Therefore, he was not obligated to provide full description. CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!!!!!!!!

19th March 2010, 03:03 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Whom ever 'antiqued' this sword made a few obvious mistakes Redone Ariel's link http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/i...&page=1#242116 Regards David Last edited by katana; 19th March 2010 at 05:28 PM.

19th March 2010, 08:24 PM	#9
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,181	i have one of those replicas, bought it just before the sword ban on new curved swords over a half metre went into effect (i panicked). was looking for a replica 1796 LC sabre, but couldn't find one in stock... actually a fairly well made sword. nice decorator. as noted in the linked review above it's a bit blade heavy. brass castings on mine were fairly well finished, leather work well done. no cracks noted. blade unsharpened. decorations in fuller laser cut. i thought it was worth what i paid for it. (roughly the same as in the linked article above, converted to UK £'s) the ebay one seems to have been fairly well distressed in a fairly crude attempt to antique it. it's been rode hard and put away wet... i'm glad to see that one in such poor condition is worth so much, mine must be worth at least double that Last edited by kronckew; 19th March 2010 at 08:36 PM.

18th March 2010, 05:14 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Ariel A rare austrian 1760 General Hadik honor cavalry sword . This is a very rare genuine exemple of Hadik sword used in the seven years war. Rare and genuine? This guy is full of you know what!

18th March 2010, 05:29 PM	#3
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	This is, fairly said, very incorrect dealing...

18th March 2010, 08:10 PM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	Hmm.. He is honest about being dishonest. Honestly where is the honnor in that. Makes you think about his other items too. I have hardly any knowledge on these old European swords. Really , I would not have guessed this was/is a replica. When where they made ?

18th March 2010, 10:05 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Check the second link: copy it in its entirety and put it in the browser. I also know next to nothing about European weapons, but my antennae twitched and I spent 10 seconds on the Internet "researching" the sword. Well, 15 people bid up to $960: tells you that there are lazy suckers born every second!

18th March 2010, 10:12 PM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,596	Hi, The "used" appearance is somewhat at odds with the sellers "honest affirmation" that it is a replica? Caveat Emptor indeed! Regards, Norman.

19th March 2010, 04:04 PM	#8
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Professional shill bidders at the end I think. The seller must have thought it was going to go too cheap and had his cronies bid it up. One of them, with a rating of zero has bid on 84 items in the last 30 days.

22nd April 2010, 12:10 AM	#10
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	An acquaintance bought a rapier from this dealer 2 months ago, and the dealer all but disappeared upon receiving the money. So did the rapier. Caveat emptor!