Jambiya Tranlation Please ?

SwordZ · 25th February 2010, 05:24 PM

Dear Forumates,

Just got this jambiya, anybody pls help me translate this arabic (?) letter

maybe Dom ?

Rgds
JL

Michael Blalock · 26th February 2010, 03:47 PM

I'll give it a try. It is hard to read the last part of the name so it is a lot of guess work.

عملamal=work of

Abd al raldjann
عبد ال رالدجا

SwordZ · 26th February 2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Blalock

I'll give it a try. It is hard to read the last part of the name so it is a lot of guess work.

عملamal=work of

Abd al raldjann
عبد ال رالدجا

Thanks, are there any inscription for dating maybe ?

Rgds
JL

Michael Blalock · 26th February 2010, 09:35 PM

Nope, no date unless there are other markings.

Jens Nordlunde · 26th February 2010, 10:50 PM

SwordZ - maybe you should try to rear this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10581 an clean the piece a bit. Put the light at the side to give a shadow effect. Not that I can read it, but it may help others.

SwordZ · 28th February 2010, 05:50 PM

Thanks Jens,

i tried

I hope it`s help

Here we are....

Rgds
Jhony

Michael Blalock · 28th February 2010, 07:17 PM

No help for me. That last name does not make sense to me. Usually after Abdul is one of the 99 names of god but not in this case. At least not as I read it. But it is surely a name.

Jens Nordlunde · 28th February 2010, 11:10 PM

Why do you think it is Arab? Why not an Indian dialect??

Michael Blalock · 1st March 2010, 01:04 AM

I too considered that it may be a non arab name but the word amal is definately arabic and this is how Omani and Yemeni jambiyas are usually signed. I'm more inclinded to think I am misreading a letter.

olikara · 2nd March 2010, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Why do you think it is Arab? Why not an Indian dialect??

I think you are right here, Jens.

The same Arabic characters are used in Urdu as well and 'jaan' is a common addendum to muslim names in South India. For eg. Mirjan, Sabjan, etc. 'Jaan' means 'life/heart/love...'

I would not be surprised if the Jambiya was made for someone in Hyderabad state as this was a choice side arm in those days there. Hyderabad was teeming with Arabs and Sudanese right till the '50s.

Nidhi

SwordZ · 5th March 2010, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olikara

I think you are right here, Jens.

The same Arabic characters are used in Urdu as well and 'jaan' is a common addendum to muslim names in South India. For eg. Mirjan, Sabjan, etc. 'Jaan' means 'life/heart/love...'

I would not be surprised if the Jambiya was made for someone in Hyderabad state as this was a choice side arm in those days there. Hyderabad was teeming with Arabs and Sudanese right till the '50s.

Nidhi

Thanks,

So how does it read on Urdu ?

Rgds
Jhony

olikara · 5th March 2010, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwordZ

Thanks,

So how does it read on Urdu ?

Rgds
Jhony

Jhony,

It reads the same as it does in Arabic. Only that no Urdu speaker will understand it as only the script is common.

Nidhi

25th February 2010, 05:24 PM	#1
SwordZ Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 16	Jambiya Tranlation Please ? Dear Forumates, Just got this jambiya, anybody pls help me translate this arabic (?) letter maybe Dom ? Rgds JL Attached Images

28th February 2010, 05:50 PM	#6
SwordZ Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 16	Thanks Jens, i tried I hope it`s help Here we are.... Rgds Jhony Attached Images

28th February 2010, 07:17 PM	#7
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	No help for me. That last name does not make sense to me. Usually after Abdul is one of the 99 names of god but not in this case. At least not as I read it. But it is surely a name. Attached Images

26th February 2010, 03:47 PM	#2
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	I'll give it a try. It is hard to read the last part of the name so it is a lot of guess work. عملamal=work of Abd al raldjann عبد ال رالدجا

26th February 2010, 09:35 PM	#4
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Nope, no date unless there are other markings.

26th February 2010, 10:50 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	SwordZ - maybe you should try to rear this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10581 an clean the piece a bit. Put the light at the side to give a shadow effect. Not that I can read it, but it may help others.

28th February 2010, 11:10 PM	#8
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Why do you think it is Arab? Why not an Indian dialect??

1st March 2010, 01:04 AM	#9
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	I too considered that it may be a non arab name but the word amal is definately arabic and this is how Omani and Yemeni jambiyas are usually signed. I'm more inclinded to think I am misreading a letter.