Minangkabau/Gayo Keris Naga

alexish · 15th January 2018, 08:14 AM

I hereby enclose pictures of a Minangkabau/Gayo Keris Naga. Can someone attach pictures of other Minangkabau keris with Naga motif for comparison?

alexish · 15th January 2018, 08:32 AM

One more picture

Jean · 15th January 2018, 09:16 AM

Hello Alexish,
This is mine (from the ex-Martin Kerner collection), best regards.

alexish · 15th January 2018, 10:23 AM

Dear Jean,

Can you enclose a blow-up image of the Naga Motif.

Paul de Souza · 15th January 2018, 11:46 AM

Here is mine. But never saw it as Gayo. I was told it was a newish production.

Jean · 15th January 2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul de Souza

Here is mine. But never saw it as Gayo. I was told it was a newish production.

Yes Paul, mine is Minang also and from 20th century.
Regards

alexish · 15th January 2018, 02:29 PM

Another Example

Jean · 15th January 2018, 02:43 PM

Hello Alexish,
This style of naga seems to be peculiar to the Minangkabau region. I attach an enlarged pic of the sorsoran.
Regards

Jean · 15th January 2018, 07:48 PM

Hello Alexish,
Makmur Arts is an antique shop in Bukittinggi which I visited more than 20 years ago, if you are connected to them in any way please be advised that this is against the rules of this Forum.
Regards

David · 15th January 2018, 10:26 PM

Alexish, do you currently own the keris that you started this thread with or are these photos from an auction site?

alexish · 16th January 2018, 12:12 AM

Dear David,

these photos are from commercial sites, but these items have been confirmed to be sold several years ago. I understand that this would be in compliance with the forum rules.

Rick · 16th January 2018, 12:43 AM

In the future please try to remove site names from your images.
Thanks

alexish · 16th January 2018, 02:03 AM

Apologies. Noted.

alexish · 16th January 2018, 02:11 AM

I hereby attach images to compare the Minangkabau Keirs Naga motif with the naga motifs of different keris cultures.

I have one question about the last image with the 4 Naga Javanese Keris. Is this a traditional Pakem or a new Kamardikan design?

Jean · 16th January 2018, 10:06 AM

Hello Alexish,
Your naga motif 2 (the 2 pics on the left, old blades) is commonly called "primitif" style in the collectors circles.
Regards

alexish · 16th January 2018, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Hello Alexish,
Your naga motif 2 (the 2 pics on the left, old blades) is commonly called "primitif" style in the collectors circles.
Regards

Are these "primitive" style Malay or Javanese?

Jean · 16th January 2018, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexish

Are these "primitive" style Malay or Javanese?

Hello Alexish,
I am not sure but this specific style with a hole under the naga head seems to be Malay/ Sumatrese, see pic. Primitive naga blades are also found in Java with a different style but some of them may not be original (naga head carved later).
Regards

alexish · 17th January 2018, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Hello Alexish,
I am not sure but this specific style with a hole under the naga head seems to be Malay/ Sumatrese, see pic. Primitive naga blades are also found in Java with a different style but some of them may not be original (naga head carved later).
Regards

Dear Jean,

Please see attached image. There seems to be Banjar, Javanese and Pattani versions of this hole motif.

alexish · 18th January 2018, 01:13 AM

Here are some more images of Naga motifs on known Malay blades:

alexish · 1st February 2018, 07:08 AM

Dear fellow collectors,

For your reference, some more pictures of a Bugis Keris Naga.

alexish · 19th February 2018, 03:56 AM

A more crisp example of Minangkabau keris naga. I hereby attach some pictures.

Jean · 19th February 2018, 09:58 AM

Finely carved specimen, thanks!

alexish · 19th February 2018, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Finely carved specimen, thanks!

Dear Jean,

Take a look at its unusual length.

David · 19th February 2018, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexish

Dear Jean,

Take a look at its unusual length.

What is the actual measured length Alexish?

Sajen · 19th February 2018, 06:42 PM

I am speechless

! Very nice blades Alexis!

15th January 2018, 08:14 AM	#1
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Minangkabau/Gayo Keris Naga I hereby enclose pictures of a Minangkabau/Gayo Keris Naga. Can someone attach pictures of other Minangkabau keris with Naga motif for comparison? Attached Images

15th January 2018, 08:32 AM	#2
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	One more picture Attached Images

15th January 2018, 09:16 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alexish, This is mine (from the ex-Martin Kerner collection), best regards. Attached Images

15th January 2018, 11:46 AM	#5
Paul de Souza Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 65	Here is mine. But never saw it as Gayo. I was told it was a newish production. Attached Images

15th January 2018, 02:29 PM	#7
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Another Example Attached Images

15th January 2018, 10:23 AM	#4
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Dear Jean, Can you enclose a blow-up image of the Naga Motif.

15th January 2018, 02:43 PM	#8
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alexish, This style of naga seems to be peculiar to the Minangkabau region. I attach an enlarged pic of the sorsoran. Regards Attached Images

15th January 2018, 07:48 PM	#9
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alexish, Makmur Arts is an antique shop in Bukittinggi which I visited more than 20 years ago, if you are connected to them in any way please be advised that this is against the rules of this Forum. Regards

15th January 2018, 10:26 PM	#10
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Alexish, do you currently own the keris that you started this thread with or are these photos from an auction site?

16th January 2018, 12:12 AM	#11
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Dear David, these photos are from commercial sites, but these items have been confirmed to be sold several years ago. I understand that this would be in compliance with the forum rules.

16th January 2018, 12:43 AM	#12
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	In the future please try to remove site names from your images. Thanks

16th January 2018, 02:03 AM	#13
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Apologies. Noted.

16th January 2018, 02:11 AM	#14
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Comparison of Naga Motif between different Keris cultures I hereby attach images to compare the Minangkabau Keirs Naga motif with the naga motifs of different keris cultures. I have one question about the last image with the 4 Naga Javanese Keris. Is this a traditional Pakem or a new Kamardikan design? Attached Images

16th January 2018, 10:06 AM	#15
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Alexish, Your naga motif 2 (the 2 pics on the left, old blades) is commonly called "primitif" style in the collectors circles. Regards

18th January 2018, 01:13 AM	#19
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Malay Nagas Here are some more images of Naga motifs on known Malay blades: Attached Images

1st February 2018, 07:08 AM	#20
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	Bugis Keris Naga Dear fellow collectors, For your reference, some more pictures of a Bugis Keris Naga. Attached Images

19th February 2018, 03:56 AM	#21
alexish Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 127	A more crisp example of Minangkabau keris naga. I hereby attach some pictures. Attached Images

19th February 2018, 09:58 AM	#22
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Finely carved specimen, thanks!

19th February 2018, 06:42 PM	#25
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,788	I am speechless ! Very nice blades Alexis!