Targui

Kubur · 3rd December 2016, 09:50 PM

Hi Guys

Any ideas about this blade?
Date or origin?

Thank you

Sajen · 3rd December 2016, 11:02 PM

Look like a takouba, think Ian will comment soon!

Regards,
Detlef

TVV · 4th December 2016, 07:54 PM

These blades are never easy to determine, as blanks in an older broadsword style were produced in Solingen until well into the 19th century. Markings often do not help much either, as many of them were applied locally. And then there is the possibility of a local blade imitating a European import. The hilt itself looks much newer, from the 20th century.

Iain has studied hundreds of takouba and has developed a good feel for these blades, hopefully he will respond. In the meantime, I would start browsing examples on his site with similar style blades:

http://takouba.org/catalog/index.php...-fuller-blades

Sincerely,
Teodor

Kubur · 4th December 2016, 08:30 PM

Thank you both
I fund something similiar on his beautiful website
http://takouba.org/catalog/index.php/blades/takouba-123
It looks very similar - number 123- in the Tabouka Chinese menu...
Best,
Kubur

Iain · 5th December 2016, 11:07 AM

Mounts look to be 20th century.

The blade I think is not that similar to the example linked from my site. The blade profile is dramatically different.

I think this one is locally made and probably early 20th century. Are there any blade marks?

Battara · 5th December 2016, 04:14 PM

If this is the turn of the 20th century, then it might have been part of the Mahdist movement of that time.

Iain · 5th December 2016, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

If this is the turn of the 20th century, then it might have been part of the Mahdist movement of that time.

Unlikely as I think it's definitely later than that and its not from Sudan.

Kubur · 5th December 2016, 06:23 PM

Thank you for your help

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain

Mounts look to be 20th century.

Maybe I don't know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain

The blade I think is not that similar to the example linked from my site. The blade profile is dramatically different.

i looked again and you are right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain

I think this one is locally made and probably early 20th century. Are there any blade marks?

No I can recognize locally made blade. It's an import but i don't know from where... The marks are not easy to see, but yes they are some.

Iain · 5th December 2016, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Thank you for your help

Maybe I don't know.

i looked again and you are right.

No I can recognize locally made blade. It's an import but i don't know from where... The marks are not easy to see, but yes they are some.

Do you have the sword in hand. If so post more detailed photos. I've handled quite a few, including the same single fuller and flat profile, it was locally made. But it's your sword...

Look for grind marks in the fuller.

3rd December 2016, 09:50 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Targui Hi Guys Any ideas about this blade? Date or origin? Thank you Attached Images

3rd December 2016, 11:02 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,791	Look like a takouba, think Ian will comment soon! Regards, Detlef

4th December 2016, 07:54 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	These blades are never easy to determine, as blanks in an older broadsword style were produced in Solingen until well into the 19th century. Markings often do not help much either, as many of them were applied locally. And then there is the possibility of a local blade imitating a European import. The hilt itself looks much newer, from the 20th century. Iain has studied hundreds of takouba and has developed a good feel for these blades, hopefully he will respond. In the meantime, I would start browsing examples on his site with similar style blades: http://takouba.org/catalog/index.php...-fuller-blades Sincerely, Teodor

4th December 2016, 08:30 PM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Thank you both I fund something similiar on his beautiful website http://takouba.org/catalog/index.php/blades/takouba-123 It looks very similar - number 123- in the Tabouka Chinese menu... Best, Kubur

5th December 2016, 11:07 AM	#5
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,693	Mounts look to be 20th century. The blade I think is not that similar to the example linked from my site. The blade profile is dramatically different. I think this one is locally made and probably early 20th century. Are there any blade marks?

5th December 2016, 04:14 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	If this is the turn of the 20th century, then it might have been part of the Mahdist movement of that time.