Big keris

Freddy · 25th March 2010, 12:03 PM

Just got this straight-bladed keris in last week.

Probably a Bugis keris. I was wondering about the size of this piece. The blade measures 37 cm from the handle to the tip. It's heavy with a thickness of almost 1 cm near the ganja.

I know Bugis blades are strong, functional pieces, but are large blades like this one usual ?

The blade is uncleaned as I received it, but I can see pamor (look at the pic)

hanggoye · 25th March 2010, 12:59 PM

where the pic??

Freddy · 25th March 2010, 01:03 PM

It's the last one, showing the lines on the blade near the tip.

kai · 26th March 2010, 09:02 AM

Hello Freddy,

All parts aren't Bugis/Sulawesi as far as I can tell. No scabbard?

The pendokok could be from the eastern Malay peninsula. (Maybe younger than hilt and blade though?)

Regards,
Kai

Moshah · 26th March 2010, 10:32 AM

Hi fred,

Was the ganja's really a ganja? Or was it a ganja iras?

PenangsangII · 26th March 2010, 11:06 AM

Based on the pics of the blade alone.... I think this is a Palembang piece

Freddy · 26th March 2010, 05:45 PM

Hi, all.

The ganja of this keris is seperate.

The pendokok is very simple, but it has an interesting feature. The two rings between the actual cup of the pendokok and the blade are not attached to that 'cup'. They are a seperate piece.
Every pendokok I have seen in the past was made from 1 piece of metal.

Sorry to say, but this keris came without sheath.

Here's a better pic of the pendokok.

Rick · 26th March 2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenangsangII

Based on the pics of the blade alone.... I think this is a Palembang piece

Agree, in at least for me this blade redefines 'Bugis' .

I'm not used to seeing what I consider an atypical blade cross-section such as this .

Probably just my ignorance showing though ..

David · 26th March 2010, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy

The pendokok is very simple, but it has an interesting feature. The two rings between the actual cup of the pendokok and the blade are not attached to that 'cup'. They are a seperate piece.
Every pendokok I have seen in the past was made from 1 piece of metal.

This Terengganu Keris i recently posted in another thread has this same feature in the pendokok. I have seen at least one other set up like this, also from Terengganu.

Alam Shah · 27th March 2010, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenangsangII

Based on the pics of the blade alone.... I think this is a Palembang piece

Based on the style, metal and pamor construction.. a possible origin.. Palembang is a potpourri of styles.. hilt ring (pendokok) is not original to the hilt, and hilt (hulu) may not be original to the blade.. however, it's a nice robust blade.. simple and yet beautiful.. congratulations!

kulbuntet · 27th March 2010, 10:11 PM

salaam aleikum all,

blade is IMO palembang.

25th March 2010, 12:03 PM	#1
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Big keris Just got this straight-bladed keris in last week. Probably a Bugis keris. I was wondering about the size of this piece. The blade measures 37 cm from the handle to the tip. It's heavy with a thickness of almost 1 cm near the ganja. I know Bugis blades are strong, functional pieces, but are large blades like this one usual ? The blade is uncleaned as I received it, but I can see pamor (look at the pic)

25th March 2010, 12:59 PM	#2
hanggoye Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 34	where the pic??

25th March 2010, 01:03 PM	#3
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	It's the last one, showing the lines on the blade near the tip.

26th March 2010, 09:02 AM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Freddy, All parts aren't Bugis/Sulawesi as far as I can tell. No scabbard? The pendokok could be from the eastern Malay peninsula. (Maybe younger than hilt and blade though?) Regards, Kai

26th March 2010, 10:32 AM	#5
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Hi fred, Was the ganja's really a ganja? Or was it a ganja iras?

26th March 2010, 11:06 AM	#6
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Based on the pics of the blade alone.... I think this is a Palembang piece

26th March 2010, 05:45 PM	#7
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Hi, all. The ganja of this keris is seperate. The pendokok is very simple, but it has an interesting feature. The two rings between the actual cup of the pendokok and the blade are not attached to that 'cup'. They are a seperate piece. Every pendokok I have seen in the past was made from 1 piece of metal. Sorry to say, but this keris came without sheath. Here's a better pic of the pendokok.

27th March 2010, 10:11 PM	#11
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	salaam aleikum all, blade is IMO palembang.