Tatarian sword translation and comments pls!

HUSAR · 14th March 2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom

priori, it seems that this is not written in Arabic
might be in old Turkish or Farsi
nevertheless
- 1st "cartouche" (up) a word unknown in Arabic, follow by
"ASLI AL" either "original"

- 2nd "cartouche" "TALY KEL AMEL" the 2 last words ... no meaning in Arabic
"AMEL" either "Made"

- 3rd "cartouche" interjection "ALI YA"
"YA ALI" either "Hi Ali"

pretty sure that "Zefir" could be the right person to translate those 3 cartouches

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Dom

thank you Dom for help I hope Zefir will be able to translate it!
best
Husar

Valjhun · 14th March 2010, 05:03 PM

Astonishing find! Top of the top and more than rare it is unique! Congrats!

Emanuel · 14th March 2010, 05:13 PM

Superb! hard to think of a more graceful sword.

Jeff D · 14th March 2010, 06:32 PM

The 2nd Cartouche reads " Amal Kalbeali". "Made by Kalbeali". The supposed son of Assadollah.

Jeff

HUSAR · 14th March 2010, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff D

The 2nd Cartouche reads " Amal Kalbeali". "Made by Kalbeali". The supposed son of Assadollah.

Jeff

interesting while the gold overlays do not remind me persian work? what do you think?

TVV · 15th March 2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HUSAR

interesting while the gold overlays do not remind me persian work? what do you think?

First of all,

Let me join the rest of the choire in expressing my gratitude for you sharing this sword with us. We do not get to see these every year.

As for the blade, perhaps it was originally Persian, and later decorated by those famour Armenian craftsmen from Lvov that got to enhance and assemble many of the imports to Poland from the East?

Best regards,
Teodor

Jeff D · 15th March 2010, 11:20 PM

Sorry about the slow reply. Work... you know.

I think the first cartouche reads "La fata ella Ali" or "There is no brave man but Ali"
The last cartouche I think is "Ya Ali Madad" or "Oh Ali with your help".

With out better pictures I agree with Teodor observations.

All the Best
Jeff

14th March 2010, 05:03 PM	#2
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Astonishing find! Top of the top and more than rare it is unique! Congrats!

14th March 2010, 05:13 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Superb! hard to think of a more graceful sword.

14th March 2010, 06:32 PM	#4
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	The 2nd Cartouche reads " Amal Kalbeali". "Made by Kalbeali". The supposed son of Assadollah. Jeff

15th March 2010, 11:20 PM	#7
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Sorry about the slow reply. Work... you know. I think the first cartouche reads "La fata ella Ali" or "There is no brave man but Ali" The last cartouche I think is "Ya Ali Madad" or "Oh Ali with your help". With out better pictures I agree with Teodor observations. All the Best Jeff