A Match Made In Keris Swap

Rick · 19th February 2010, 02:26 PM

Agree Shahrial; thanks .

The pendongkok is a pretty thick casting .

The blade is pre-war; it is quite sturdy yet very topographical .

Anyone think this might be a peninsular keris ?

Sajen · 19th February 2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Agree Shahrial; thanks .

The pendongkok is a pretty thick casting .

The blade is pre-war; it is quite sturdy yet very topographical .

Anyone think this might be a peninsular keris ?

Hi Rick,

I still remember that you have shown the hilt in a thread I started, now it is complete.
When I look at my last thread it is good possible that the keris is from Riau or Peninsular, the sampir is similar. But Alam, Kai Wee or Rasdan will be able to say more about this.

Detlef

Rick · 19th February 2010, 11:59 PM

I hope they'll clue me in also .

BluErf · 24th February 2010, 02:02 PM

Yep, looks peninsula to me.

The hilt and pendoko looks Sulawesi.

But came together nicely.

DAHenkel · 13th March 2010, 02:47 AM

Slightly tricky one Rick but it is probably not Peninsular or at least not from the Northeast Peninsula. These I like to categorize as "Straits Bugis" or just "Straits" keris because by the beginning of the 19th century there was already very little distinction between the Malay and Bugis peoples in the region. It could have come from anywhere up to Northeastern Sumatra, down through Riau or as far south as Palembang. The blade looks like many South Sumatran blades I've seen dressed in Palembang dress. These blades are so common I suspect they could have been trade blades. Probably produced in South Sumatra for the Malay/Bugis market circa 19th c. The sheath looks like Riau or Eastern Sumatra. They're very similar to Terengganu in form but there is little to distinguish them and they tend to run together. As a general rule the wood selection is slightly different with the Terengganu preference for wood with more figuring and dark color bands. The Riau/Sumatran types tend to be less boxy and fuller (perhaps buxom is the word

?) but again somewhere in between they overlap. I assume the hilt is not original to the piece but it is appropriate, more or less. Pendokok is Bugis but is not a perfect fit. Still, again it will serve. Nice piece...

Rick · 13th March 2010, 03:02 AM

Thanks for your comments Dave; and it is great to see you posting again !
Yes, the hilt was acquired in the US from a non-collector .

This would generally be considered an acceptable combination then ?

Thanks,
Rick

19th February 2010, 02:26 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Agree Shahrial; thanks . The pendongkok is a pretty thick casting . The blade is pre-war; it is quite sturdy yet very topographical . Anyone think this might be a peninsular keris ? Last edited by Rick; 19th February 2010 at 06:02 PM.

19th February 2010, 11:59 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I hope they'll clue me in also .

24th February 2010, 02:02 PM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Yep, looks peninsula to me. The hilt and pendoko looks Sulawesi. But came together nicely.

13th March 2010, 02:47 AM	#5
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	Slightly tricky one Rick but it is probably not Peninsular or at least not from the Northeast Peninsula. These I like to categorize as "Straits Bugis" or just "Straits" keris because by the beginning of the 19th century there was already very little distinction between the Malay and Bugis peoples in the region. It could have come from anywhere up to Northeastern Sumatra, down through Riau or as far south as Palembang. The blade looks like many South Sumatran blades I've seen dressed in Palembang dress. These blades are so common I suspect they could have been trade blades. Probably produced in South Sumatra for the Malay/Bugis market circa 19th c. The sheath looks like Riau or Eastern Sumatra. They're very similar to Terengganu in form but there is little to distinguish them and they tend to run together. As a general rule the wood selection is slightly different with the Terengganu preference for wood with more figuring and dark color bands. The Riau/Sumatran types tend to be less boxy and fuller (perhaps buxom is the word ?) but again somewhere in between they overlap. I assume the hilt is not original to the piece but it is appropriate, more or less. Pendokok is Bugis but is not a perfect fit. Still, again it will serve. Nice piece...

13th March 2010, 03:02 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Thanks for your comments Dave; and it is great to see you posting again ! Yes, the hilt was acquired in the US from a non-collector . This would generally be considered an acceptable combination then ? Thanks, Rick