Club info please

graeme gt · 23rd January 2010, 01:16 PM

Thanks Guys,Putty Nut you couldnt make it up.

Tim Simmons · 23rd January 2010, 09:02 PM

You lucky lucky chap. Not just PNG but other Islands. I believe that the stone ball heads are often held to the haft by dried clay, Atuna nut putty is an extreamly resilient substance and would still be evident. When clay is dry it would hold for most purposes at the time, think of sun dried mud bricks.

Tim Simmons · 8th August 2010, 07:34 PM

graeme you will find this interesting.
Piercing hole worked from both sdes. Held fast with barkcloth, easy to fall apart easy to replace. Probably why older ones like yours are always loose. Just get some tourist painted barkcloth and adapt? Pictures from 1936-7 {The Kukukuku of the Upper Watut, Beatrice Blackwood}. Sorry for such huge pictures but not much point in showing otherwise.

graeme gt · 9th August 2010, 11:31 AM

Great stuff Tim all i need from you now is how the Zulu wire work is done

Cheers

Tim Simmons · 29th November 2011, 06:17 PM

I now have one of these clubs. Sorry for the indoor pictures. I am thinking that there must be different regional models and possibly different fighting techniques of these clubs. I have seen these clubs with the stone head fixed with clay or other mastic. Also as illustrated in this thread, fixed with tapa cloth, but and most seen is this loose stone head. One can see that there is no trace of mastic of any kind. Just patination and some wear. I wonder if this is a two handed weapon to use the spike end. Held in general with the hands roughly the distance from the stone and the spike. Like this it would be possible to pick and swing at relativly close contact. The fact that the stone is not fixed is not a problem, the swing keeps the stone in place. The hands can easily be brought together at the spike end for the full distance swing of over 1m and arms length. Anyway I love it

Tim Simmons · 11th December 2011, 04:23 PM

graeme,

All the information we need about fixing the stone head is here.

http://vernon.qm.qld.gov.au:8080/sea...&highlight=13#

I doubt we could get any of the nut putty here. Would it be acceptable to make up an alternative black putty? Using wax+tree resin or shalac and charcoal dust ?

Finding this site made me look again with a x10 loop. On the inside of the stone a black residue can be found. Also small patches on the wood

fearn · 12th December 2011, 05:48 AM

Hi Tim,

I'd suggest that whatever you make for putty, you make it so that it's easy to dissolve later on.

Best,

F

23rd January 2010, 09:02 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	You lucky lucky chap. Not just PNG but other Islands. I believe that the stone ball heads are often held to the haft by dried clay, Atuna nut putty is an extreamly resilient substance and would still be evident. When clay is dry it would hold for most purposes at the time, think of sun dried mud bricks. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 23rd January 2010 at 09:22 PM.

8th August 2010, 07:34 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	graeme you will find this interesting. Piercing hole worked from both sdes. Held fast with barkcloth, easy to fall apart easy to replace. Probably why older ones like yours are always loose. Just get some tourist painted barkcloth and adapt? Pictures from 1936-7 {The Kukukuku of the Upper Watut, Beatrice Blackwood}. Sorry for such huge pictures but not much point in showing otherwise. Attached Images

29th November 2011, 06:17 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	I now have one of these clubs. Sorry for the indoor pictures. I am thinking that there must be different regional models and possibly different fighting techniques of these clubs. I have seen these clubs with the stone head fixed with clay or other mastic. Also as illustrated in this thread, fixed with tapa cloth, but and most seen is this loose stone head. One can see that there is no trace of mastic of any kind. Just patination and some wear. I wonder if this is a two handed weapon to use the spike end. Held in general with the hands roughly the distance from the stone and the spike. Like this it would be possible to pick and swing at relativly close contact. The fact that the stone is not fixed is not a problem, the swing keeps the stone in place. The hands can easily be brought together at the spike end for the full distance swing of over 1m and arms length. Anyway I love it Attached Images

23rd January 2010, 01:16 PM	#1
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Thanks Guys,Putty Nut you couldnt make it up.

9th August 2010, 11:31 AM	#4
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Great stuff Tim all i need from you now is how the Zulu wire work is done Cheers

11th December 2011, 04:23 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	graeme, All the information we need about fixing the stone head is here. http://vernon.qm.qld.gov.au:8080/sea...&highlight=13# I doubt we could get any of the nut putty here. Would it be acceptable to make up an alternative black putty? Using wax+tree resin or shalac and charcoal dust ? Finding this site made me look again with a x10 loop. On the inside of the stone a black residue can be found. Also small patches on the wood

12th December 2011, 05:48 AM	#7
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Tim, I'd suggest that whatever you make for putty, you make it so that it's easy to dissolve later on. Best, F