keris-film

BluErf · 19th January 2010, 03:04 PM

Ah, Shahrial, maybe I can borrow the magazine from you sometime? Or read a scanned copy of it?

I would gladly purchase a copy of the video of Empu Djeno at work, if it is still available.

sirek · 19th January 2010, 08:32 PM

I thought it was worth to place it,
now you can see how much work it is to make a (good) keris.
You can read about it, but it is difficult to imagine how it's really done.

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thank you David. I found a similar video in youtube last year. perhaps it was the same video mentioned before. showing the keris making in late empu Djeno's besalen.

maybe this is the other movie one youtube that you mentioned

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=aAjwWIrZyyw

A. G. Maisey · 19th January 2010, 10:39 PM

That Knives'90 article was written in 1988 or '89. At that time I was very heavily involved in custom knife making, mostly making damascus blades for other makers in both Australia and the USA. One of my big selling points was that I almost never signed a blade, so there are a lot of my blades out there with somebody else's name on them. Of course I was also involved with keris, Pak Parman was still with us, and I felt that as a part of my committment to keris culture I should try to spread awareness of the keris into the world outside Jawa.

This was the late 1980's --- no internet, a few keris study societies in Jawa but virtually nowhere else, venues to introduce the keris to a wider audience were gunshows, Indonesian cultural fests, and the custom knife community. I did gunshows from the mid 1970's, I participated in Indonesian cultural displays and events, Knives '90 was an attempt to introduce the keris to the custom knife fraternity. It worked reasonably well.

The article I wrote for Knives '90 was very, very basic. It was aimed at a readership who could be expected to know absolutely nothing at all about the keris.

The title of the published article was the invention of the editor --- you should have seen his first two attempts!! My title was :- "An Introduction to the Keris". Apparently my title was not sexy enough.

The video I mentioned was produced by a gentleman named Kieth Spencer. He and his wife visited Jawa in about 2000 --- I forget the exact date, but it was around the time when the troubles were in full swing. Kieth is a wheel in the Australian knife collecting community.His wife Joan has an interest in keris, and I understand occasionally visits this forum. I have already emailed him and asked if the video is still available for sale. I do not expect a fast response.

A. G. Maisey · 20th January 2010, 08:14 AM

I've had a response re the video.

In VCR format it collapsed during editing.

Currently is under production in DVD format and should be available at about end April.

I will advise when I know it is ready.

David · 20th January 2010, 04:25 PM

Thanks Alan. I would certainly be interested in a DVD of this.

19th January 2010, 10:39 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	That Knives'90 article was written in 1988 or '89. At that time I was very heavily involved in custom knife making, mostly making damascus blades for other makers in both Australia and the USA. One of my big selling points was that I almost never signed a blade, so there are a lot of my blades out there with somebody else's name on them. Of course I was also involved with keris, Pak Parman was still with us, and I felt that as a part of my committment to keris culture I should try to spread awareness of the keris into the world outside Jawa. This was the late 1980's --- no internet, a few keris study societies in Jawa but virtually nowhere else, venues to introduce the keris to a wider audience were gunshows, Indonesian cultural fests, and the custom knife community. I did gunshows from the mid 1970's, I participated in Indonesian cultural displays and events, Knives '90 was an attempt to introduce the keris to the custom knife fraternity. It worked reasonably well. The article I wrote for Knives '90 was very, very basic. It was aimed at a readership who could be expected to know absolutely nothing at all about the keris. The title of the published article was the invention of the editor --- you should have seen his first two attempts!! My title was :- "An Introduction to the Keris". Apparently my title was not sexy enough. The video I mentioned was produced by a gentleman named Kieth Spencer. He and his wife visited Jawa in about 2000 --- I forget the exact date, but it was around the time when the troubles were in full swing. Kieth is a wheel in the Australian knife collecting community.His wife Joan has an interest in keris, and I understand occasionally visits this forum. I have already emailed him and asked if the video is still available for sale. I do not expect a fast response. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 19th January 2010 at 10:55 PM.

19th January 2010, 03:04 PM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Ah, Shahrial, maybe I can borrow the magazine from you sometime? Or read a scanned copy of it? I would gladly purchase a copy of the video of Empu Djeno at work, if it is still available.

20th January 2010, 08:14 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	I've had a response re the video. In VCR format it collapsed during editing. Currently is under production in DVD format and should be available at about end April. I will advise when I know it is ready.

20th January 2010, 04:25 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Thanks Alan. I would certainly be interested in a DVD of this.