hilt material ?

asomotif · 19th December 2009, 11:39 PM

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At the first view I thought as asomotif that it could be spermwhale ivory but now I think it is not as I am missing the bull's eye.

Hello Guwaya,
Do you have examples of this bull eye effect ?

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I'm still thinking Potvis as you suggested, Henk .

Suppose you meant me ?

Best regards,
Willem

Rick · 19th December 2009, 11:50 PM

Sorry Willem .

guwaya · 20th December 2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Guwaya,
Do you have examples of this bull eye effect ?

Suppose you meant me ?

Best regards,
Willem

Do you have examples of this bull eye effect ?

Sorry - but I don't have.
Guwaya

sirek · 20th December 2009, 01:52 PM

Hello Danny, maybe this is interesting for you,

in a Dutch-forum it's said:

that the image suggest: the sun of Solo.

The (royal) Madurese wanted to show that their family was related to the Sunan, (See the arms of the Sunan: there are sunbeams in processed)

(hope I have translated well)

to see the original topic with picture:

http://www.dekris.nl/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=65

danny1976 · 20th December 2009, 02:25 PM

Hallo Sirek,

Thank you for youre input.

It,s a intresting opinion , is the some one else that also have this opinion?

Sirek if you have more intresting info you can pm me if you want (
gewoon nederlands )

regards,

Danny

David · 20th December 2009, 02:46 PM

Well if that is the same Semar who posts here perhaps he will join this conversation with further information. I love the carving of the one on the other forum. Can you post it here Semar, for comparison?

vampire · 20th December 2009, 02:56 PM

hai again david
i do not say ,his kris is bone ,mine is
but i do not think it is ivory like the stuff from a elephant
i might come from a other animal
photos on forum ,yes we can do and yes we will do
afther i made mine trip to asia
mine photo are never good and sharp
so i will let some one do it
to go back to the hilt it is very nice ,but i woder a bit
over the sharpness ,like michel did say
grt vampire

Rick · 20th December 2009, 04:19 PM

I think we are looking at real wear and patina here Jan .

If that sucker is molded then someone went to an awful lot of trouble to create a forgery .

vampire · 20th December 2009, 05:00 PM

hallo
rick mine old friend
a moment of peace
i did say nothing about a forgery
and i also did not take the word molded in mine reply
only if i compare it with mine pice ,it seems to miss
some sharpness yes do not read me wrong
one thihg it comes out of indonesia oke
i have spend some years there working with
pertamina oil-comp
i see the hilt is from there and it is no elephant
ivory but a other animal
and for all reasons is it handmade also in asia some
are made with other meth, oke
the big question is ,is danny happy with it
yes oke i only did try to put mine dime in this
and rick i think we started of on the wrong foot yes
let say i did oke ,soon it is new year let it be
give me your adress will mail you nice book st claus
grt jan

danny1976 · 20th December 2009, 05:53 PM

Rick,

i also think it,s realy age wear on the hilt.

i can post this one on the other forum to look if there wil come a reaction.

regards,

danny

sirek · 20th December 2009, 06:26 PM

because the growth rings I still think that this is made from a natural material

maybe for comparison some foto's of a molded grip I own:

20th December 2009, 02:56 PM	#7
vampire Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: amsterdam holland Posts: 28	hallo david hai again david i do not say ,his kris is bone ,mine is but i do not think it is ivory like the stuff from a elephant i might come from a other animal photos on forum ,yes we can do and yes we will do afther i made mine trip to asia mine photo are never good and sharp so i will let some one do it to go back to the hilt it is very nice ,but i woder a bit over the sharpness ,like michel did say grt vampire

20th December 2009, 06:26 PM	#11
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 170	because the growth rings I still think that this is made from a natural material maybe for comparison some foto's of a molded grip I own: Attached Images

19th December 2009, 11:50 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Sorry Willem .

20th December 2009, 01:52 PM	#4
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 170	Hello Danny, maybe this is interesting for you, in a Dutch-forum it's said: that the image suggest: the sun of Solo. The (royal) Madurese wanted to show that their family was related to the Sunan, (See the arms of the Sunan: there are sunbeams in processed) (hope I have translated well) to see the original topic with picture: http://www.dekris.nl/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=65

20th December 2009, 02:25 PM	#5
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hallo Sirek, Thank you for youre input. It,s a intresting opinion , is the some one else that also have this opinion? Sirek if you have more intresting info you can pm me if you want ( gewoon nederlands ) regards, Danny

20th December 2009, 02:46 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well if that is the same Semar who posts here perhaps he will join this conversation with further information. I love the carving of the one on the other forum. Can you post it here Semar, for comparison?

20th December 2009, 04:19 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I think we are looking at real wear and patina here Jan . If that sucker is molded then someone went to an awful lot of trouble to create a forgery .

20th December 2009, 05:00 PM	#9
vampire Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: amsterdam holland Posts: 28	hallo rick mine old friend a moment of peace i did say nothing about a forgery and i also did not take the word molded in mine reply only if i compare it with mine pice ,it seems to miss some sharpness yes do not read me wrong one thihg it comes out of indonesia oke i have spend some years there working with pertamina oil-comp i see the hilt is from there and it is no elephant ivory but a other animal and for all reasons is it handmade also in asia some are made with other meth, oke the big question is ,is danny happy with it yes oke i only did try to put mine dime in this and rick i think we started of on the wrong foot yes let say i did oke ,soon it is new year let it be give me your adress will mail you nice book st claus grt jan

20th December 2009, 05:53 PM	#10
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Rick, i also think it,s realy age wear on the hilt. i can post this one on the other forum to look if there wil come a reaction. regards, danny