hilt material ?

danny1976 · 19th December 2009, 11:09 PM

Hi Michel,

Yes it,s from peter.

But pleas explain why you think its from before 1825 ?

And has some one a hilt with the same figure ? I do only know the ones
with the horse , crown , epaulets etc...

Danny

asomotif · 19th December 2009, 11:35 PM

The structure and color makes me think of a hilt I have.
See this old thread :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=raja+abala

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Sure its marine ivory

Ok, but which animal / define marine ivory ?
There are quite a lot of sea mamals that can provide teeth that are workable :
Sperm whale ? orca/killerwhale ? seacow/dujong ? Walrus ? Narwal ?

David · 19th December 2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Ok, but which animal / define marine ivory ?
There are quite a lot of sea mamals that can provise teeth that are workable :
Sperm whale ? orca/killerwhale ? seacow/dujong ? Walrus ? Narwal ?

Well Willem, you are certainly getting beyond my ability to differentiate.

danny1976 · 19th December 2009, 11:50 PM

Gentleman its getting a intrseting discusion.

I hope that we can figure it out what kind of animal did use this teeth to eat
before it did became a keris hilt .?

And also i.m realy curious how old it could be.

asomotif · 20th December 2009, 12:11 AM

There have been several threads where ID-ing ivory was discussed.

A recent one with info / links and examples was this one.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...identification

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Well Willem, you are certainly getting beyond my ability to differentiate.

Hello David, at this moment I am also just able to ask the questions, and not yet to answer them

Rick · 20th December 2009, 12:33 AM

I'm still thinking Potvis as you suggested, Henk err, Willem .

I'd be very interested in seeing an example of a bone hilt that looks anything like this .

Lack of dots would negate Hippo as the source .
Very nice patina and wear on this jejeran.

I love the Sun face .

asomotif · 20th December 2009, 12:39 AM

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At the first view I thought as asomotif that it could be spermwhale ivory but now I think it is not as I am missing the bull's eye.

Hello Guwaya,
Do you have examples of this bull eye effect ?

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I'm still thinking Potvis as you suggested, Henk .

Suppose you meant me ?

Best regards,
Willem

20th December 2009, 12:33 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I'm still thinking Potvis as you suggested, Henk err, Willem . I'd be very interested in seeing an example of a bone hilt that looks anything like this . Lack of dots would negate Hippo as the source . Very nice patina and wear on this jejeran. I love the Sun face . Last edited by Rick; 20th December 2009 at 07:09 PM.

19th December 2009, 11:09 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi Michel, Yes it,s from peter. But pleas explain why you think its from before 1825 ? And has some one a hilt with the same figure ? I do only know the ones with the horse , crown , epaulets etc... Danny

19th December 2009, 11:50 PM	#4
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Gentleman its getting a intrseting discusion. I hope that we can figure it out what kind of animal did use this teeth to eat before it did became a keris hilt .? And also i.m realy curious how old it could be.