Two keris

A. G. Maisey · 7th November 2009, 04:02 AM

When I look at a keris I do not appraise its value as a totality, but piece by piece:- the value of the blade is X, the value of the hilt is Y ---and so on. If everything is nice, original and of one piece, it gets a loading, if we know its history it gets another loading, if it does not require any work at all it gets another loading.

With these two keris I appraised them as married, and requiring a lot of work, possibly in need of having blades changed, or a new set of dress made for one blade.

Yes, there are much, much better keris out there, but even the very worst keris has a value, and the value of these two keris is very much higher than the price they realised.

I do not sell on Ebay, and the only couple of keris I have bought off Ebay were ones that I had sold. I buy other things on Ebay, and my approach is to bid the highest amount I am prepared to pay, and to bid that amount as near to closing as possible.I used to just put my bid in at any time, and then forget it, and although this was often successful sometimes my bid would get wiped out in a bidding war. These days if I lose something, it goes for a price I was not prepared to pay anyway, and often that price is pretty stupid. When I win I usually pay a fair market price, and in my estimation, this is the key:- you don't try to get something as cheap as possible, you estimate a fair market price, and make that price your highest bid.If you get the item for less, you're winning, if you don't get it, you still win, because you have not paid more than it is worth. If you pay your highest bid, you've broken even.

In fact, I bid pretty much the same as I would if it were a live auction.

BluErf · 7th November 2009, 04:23 AM

Yes, I agree with Alan that the final bid price on the 2 kerises are still below their fair value, even with the points I have made.

Sajen · 7th November 2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

When I look at a keris I do not appraise its value as a totality, but piece by piece:- the value of the blade is X, the value of the hilt is Y ---and so on. If everything is nice, original and of one piece, it gets a loading, if we know its history it gets another loading, if it does not require any work at all it gets another loading.

With these two keris I appraised them as married, and requiring a lot of work, possibly in need of having blades changed, or a new set of dress made for one blade.

Yes, there are much, much better keris out there, but even the very worst keris has a value, and the value of these two keris is very much higher than the price they realised.

In fact, I bid pretty much the same as I would if it were a live auction.

Hello Alan,

agree with you that the value of both keris is much higher than the final selling price, this have been the reason that I am so angry with myself and it have been my mistake that I don't give a higher bid, maybe 250$.
Just another learning lesson for me.

Best,

Detlef

7th November 2009, 04:02 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,070	When I look at a keris I do not appraise its value as a totality, but piece by piece:- the value of the blade is X, the value of the hilt is Y ---and so on. If everything is nice, original and of one piece, it gets a loading, if we know its history it gets another loading, if it does not require any work at all it gets another loading. With these two keris I appraised them as married, and requiring a lot of work, possibly in need of having blades changed, or a new set of dress made for one blade. Yes, there are much, much better keris out there, but even the very worst keris has a value, and the value of these two keris is very much higher than the price they realised. I do not sell on Ebay, and the only couple of keris I have bought off Ebay were ones that I had sold. I buy other things on Ebay, and my approach is to bid the highest amount I am prepared to pay, and to bid that amount as near to closing as possible.I used to just put my bid in at any time, and then forget it, and although this was often successful sometimes my bid would get wiped out in a bidding war. These days if I lose something, it goes for a price I was not prepared to pay anyway, and often that price is pretty stupid. When I win I usually pay a fair market price, and in my estimation, this is the key:- you don't try to get something as cheap as possible, you estimate a fair market price, and make that price your highest bid.If you get the item for less, you're winning, if you don't get it, you still win, because you have not paid more than it is worth. If you pay your highest bid, you've broken even. In fact, I bid pretty much the same as I would if it were a live auction.

7th November 2009, 04:23 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Yes, I agree with Alan that the final bid price on the 2 kerises are still below their fair value, even with the points I have made.