Weird numbers on a shamshir

ariel · 27th October 2009, 10:34 PM

Interestingly, the crossguard is made of iron, while the Ottomans favoured brass or ( in the Arabian parts of the Empire) they used a lot of silver.

Michael Blalock · 28th October 2009, 08:56 PM

Maybe an early form of Sudoko. It does have all nine digits. Talismanic.

Royston · 30th October 2009, 05:56 PM

How about a date 12-3-56
I.E 12th March 1856

Followed by a 4 digit armoury number 8974

Roy

Jim McDougall · 30th October 2009, 07:29 PM

Bonk!!!!

Uh..Royston, that makes too much sense!!! Theres gotta be something mystical here .
Well done!!!
All the best,
Jim

Rick · 30th October 2009, 08:18 PM

Then it's just coincidence that the numbers 1 to 9 are in there with no repeats .

Atlantia · 30th October 2009, 09:45 PM

I would think its just a simple failure on the part of the engraver to understand the numerals.
In the same way that westerners wear T-Shirts with japanese logos on them that turn out ot be gobbledegook, and Japanese teenagers wear ones with 'english' logos that range from misspelling to downright rude.
I would think the maker wanted to add a European inscription and something went wrong.
That said, I think the numerals look very early 19thC or earlier.

katana · 31st October 2009, 03:01 PM

Perhaps numerology is the key.....each number has individual significance and I assume that the order in which they are placed, in some way, fortifies their power / meaning ??

Interestingly the sequence begins with '1' ( God) and ends with '4'....which is suggested to signify God (in Eastern religions)...

http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/Master+Numbers+(Numerology)

Regards David

27th October 2009, 10:34 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Interestingly, the crossguard is made of iron, while the Ottomans favoured brass or ( in the Arabian parts of the Empire) they used a lot of silver.

28th October 2009, 08:56 PM	#2
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Maybe an early form of Sudoko. It does have all nine digits. Talismanic.

30th October 2009, 05:56 PM	#3
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	How about a date 12-3-56 I.E 12th March 1856 Followed by a 4 digit armoury number 8974 Roy

30th October 2009, 07:29 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,610	Bonk!!!! Uh..Royston, that makes too much sense!!! Theres gotta be something mystical here . Well done!!! All the best, Jim

30th October 2009, 08:18 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,366	Then it's just coincidence that the numbers 1 to 9 are in there with no repeats .

30th October 2009, 09:45 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I would think its just a simple failure on the part of the engraver to understand the numerals. In the same way that westerners wear T-Shirts with japanese logos on them that turn out ot be gobbledegook, and Japanese teenagers wear ones with 'english' logos that range from misspelling to downright rude. I would think the maker wanted to add a European inscription and something went wrong. That said, I think the numerals look very early 19thC or earlier.

31st October 2009, 03:01 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Perhaps numerology is the key.....each number has individual significance and I assume that the order in which they are placed, in some way, fortifies their power / meaning ?? Interestingly the sequence begins with '1' ( God) and ends with '4'....which is suggested to signify God (in Eastern religions)... http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/Master+Numbers+(Numerology) Regards David