Moroccan Koummya

Dom · 20th October 2009, 12:44 AM

Hi, wecome here
apparently, that Koummya it's not a tourist piece,
very nice dagger, if it's possible to give a datation,
let said around 1908 date of the first railway creation in Morocco.

à +

Dom

jswillems · 20th October 2009, 12:50 AM

Thanks for the replies. Nice to know it doesn't look like a cheap tourist item! As for the train mark, I've done some research online but haven't found much.

Atlantia · 20th October 2009, 01:11 PM

Hi JS

Welcome to the forums.
Nice dagger. Looks like its got some real age and quality.
The Steam train motif is unusual and rather attractive too. All in all a good piece I'd say.

Gene

Rick · 17th November 2009, 05:55 PM

Maybe excellent ; could that be a Rhino handle ?
Awfully coarse grain for wood .

jswillems · 18th November 2009, 12:15 AM

How would I be able to tell if it is rhino horn or wood? It does seem to have a very coarse grain. Here are some larger pictures of the handle. Thanks.

katana · 18th November 2009, 12:44 AM

Hi jswillems,
you could try the 'hot pin' test on a part of the handle that is generally hidden....the smell of burning hair is an excellent indicator.

Although the close ups of the handle seem to reveal a wood grain (similar to something like rosewood) ...but cannot be totally sure. Sometimes close-ups give false 'impressions'

All the best
David

Rick · 18th November 2009, 01:26 AM

I have a very woody looking rhino hilt on an Algerian Saif .

Try the pin ....

spiral · 18th November 2009, 07:20 PM

I Could be wrong but it looks like some of the typical West African timber types to me, photos of end grain rather than side grain would help massivly though.

Its a lovely piece, great blade, workmanship, inscription etc.

Wish it was mine!

Spiral

17th November 2009, 05:55 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Maybe excellent ; could that be a Rhino handle ? Awfully coarse grain for wood . Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 18th November 2009 at 07:10 PM.

18th November 2009, 12:15 AM	#5
jswillems Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 32	How would I be able to tell if it is rhino horn or wood? It does seem to have a very coarse grain. Here are some larger pictures of the handle. Thanks. Attached Images

20th October 2009, 12:44 AM	#1
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi, wecome here apparently, that Koummya it's not a tourist piece, very nice dagger, if it's possible to give a datation, let said around 1908 date of the first railway creation in Morocco. à + Dom

20th October 2009, 12:50 AM	#2
jswillems Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 32	Thanks for the replies. Nice to know it doesn't look like a cheap tourist item! As for the train mark, I've done some research online but haven't found much.

20th October 2009, 01:11 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi JS Welcome to the forums. Nice dagger. Looks like its got some real age and quality. The Steam train motif is unusual and rather attractive too. All in all a good piece I'd say. Gene

18th November 2009, 12:44 AM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi jswillems, you could try the 'hot pin' test on a part of the handle that is generally hidden....the smell of burning hair is an excellent indicator. Although the close ups of the handle seem to reveal a wood grain (similar to something like rosewood) ...but cannot be totally sure. Sometimes close-ups give false 'impressions' All the best David

18th November 2009, 01:26 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	I have a very woody looking rhino hilt on an Algerian Saif . Try the pin ....

18th November 2009, 07:20 PM	#8
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I Could be wrong but it looks like some of the typical West African timber types to me, photos of end grain rather than side grain would help massivly though. Its a lovely piece, great blade, workmanship, inscription etc. Wish it was mine! Spiral