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Old 27th September 2009, 03:27 PM   #1
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Hi Steve

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... Also, Fernando, I would think the dagger from your post would also have a inscription on the reverse of the handle?...
Thanks for pointing out that these variations are called Hodeida and are provenant from the Tihama plains.
The inscription in the handle reads OMAR ABDALLAH HASSAN. The two first names were translated by fellow member Aqtai and the last one was picked by a Moroccan ex-coleague of mine. It was rather easy for her, as Hassan was precisely her husband's name. There is no date in this example.
But there is an interesting inscription 'hidden' in the handle, near the blade fixation, which could be the silversmith mark (name). Assuming that Yemenite Jews were the traditional specialists in the silver work area, this could (should) be an inscription in the local hebrew version, the so called temani.
Have you ever seen such type of inscription?

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Old 27th September 2009, 04:03 PM   #2
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Fernando here is the best guess El-ijahu. My wife knows some hebrew but some of the letters are pretty worn on this example.
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Old 27th September 2009, 05:15 PM   #3
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Hi Ward,

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Fernando here is the best guess El-ijahu. My wife knows some hebrew but some of the letters are pretty worn on this example.
Thank you so much for your (and your wife's) help .
I will be digesting such unexpected news.
Your'e right, the inscription is rather faded; but the place where it is located and the photographer don't help at all .

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Old 27th September 2009, 05:48 PM   #4
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Default Maker's name or owner's name ?

I am surprised
I always thought that the engraving on the handle reverse was the owner's name, made by the maker, in the act of selling the piece to a client.
Am i definitely wrong?
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Old 27th September 2009, 06:44 PM   #5
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I would say makers name is correct. I have a yemani powder flask that has hebrew all along the top that no one has been able to translate. You might want to check with Artzi on the translation.
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I would say makers name is correct. I have a yemani powder flask that has hebrew all along the top that no one has been able to translate. You might want to check with Artzi on the translation.
This time i was referring to the dotted Arabic engraving on the handle pommel, not the the Hebrew symbols near the blade.
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Old 27th September 2009, 07:00 PM   #7
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Sorry The Arabic on this piece I believe refers to the owner. You are correct.
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Old 27th September 2009, 07:06 PM   #8
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Default Hebrew Translation

The Hebrew letters does not make much sense. The letters are: ALEF, LAMED, yOD, NOON, HET and the last one is not clear. it might be sound like ELINAH ???, might be name, or the first three letters might sound as ELI - which means MY GOD.
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