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Old 26th September 2009, 01:29 PM   #1
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Yeah, patina is fine---as long as it doesn't include rotten decayed old shellac that picks up dust and fills all the carving detail. I've got some metal (silver?) ones too, a couple of which need careful repair.
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:41 PM   #2
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Here the same hilts after a good cleaning. A real difference!
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Old 26th September 2009, 03:25 PM   #3
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Another hilt from the table, a small sea ivory hilt. Does someone know from where this hilt? Is it maybe a hilt from Sijunjung?
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Old 26th September 2009, 05:44 PM   #4
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Sorry, I am out of order for other work because I have got a Arthroskopie at my right knee, so I am sitting and clean my handles and so coming some question in my head.
What do you think, is this Jawa Deman from Cirebon or Sumatra? My guess it is a Cirebon hilt.
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Old 26th September 2009, 07:57 PM   #5
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Sorry, I am out of order for other work because I have got a Arthroskopie at my right knee, so I am sitting and clean my handles and so coming some question in my head.
What do you think, is this Jawa Deman from Cirebon or Sumatra? My guess it is a Cirebon hilt.
Hello Detlef,
I also believe that it originates from Cirebon because of the stylized arms and slim waist.
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Old 27th September 2009, 12:03 PM   #6
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Hello Detlef,
I also believe that it originates from Cirebon because of the stylized arms and slim waist.
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Jean,

and the complete style don't look like a sumatran style.

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Old 26th September 2009, 07:53 PM   #7
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Another hilt from the table, a small sea ivory hilt. Does someone know from where this hilt? Is it maybe a hilt from Sijunjung?
Hello Detlef,
Tammens says Indragiri (Riau) for these hilts, those from Sijunjung have a similar pointed beak but are shorter
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Tammens says Indragiri (Riau) for these hilts, those from Sijunjung have a similar pointed beak but are shorter
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Hello Jean,

thank's for respond. Yes, the hilt in the third book from Tammens on page 161 reminds indeed to my hilt.

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