Pattani Naga Keris

[Greybeard]

Originally Posted by David

Now that i have actually seen this keris i do not think that it's origins are Jawa.

Hi David

The pictures above are posted by Gustav, not by me. Gustav`s keris is absolutely different from mine -- mine has 13 luk and is all over Javanese in appearance, including its dress.

Gustav, your keris is very nice; I like it!

Regards,

Heinz

[David]

Originally Posted by Greybeard

Hi David

The pictures above are posted by Gustav, not by me. Gustav`s keris is absolutely different from mine -- mine has 13 luk and is all over Javanese in appearance, including its dress.

Gustav, your keris is very nice; I like it!

Regards,

Heinz

Sorry, my bad, i look quickly, saw it was from a poster whose name began with "G" and made the wrong assumption.
I would still like to see yours someday Heinz if you ever get the technology to post it.
Interesting blade Gustav. Where do you think it is from?

[Greybeard]

No need to be sorry, David.

I can well understand that you would like to see pictures of my Naga keris, and I would like to show it as well. But I`m sure that I`ll be able to post pictures in the near future.

Best regards,

Heinz

[Gustav]

Alam Shah, Greybeard and David, thank you for the comments

David, I have really no experience with this. I thought, it would be a peninsular keris.

[Jentayu]

Hi Gustav, it is indeed a very nice keris naga bugis, you got there. It has all the features of naga that is almost similiar to mine with the distinctive 3 "clove of leaves" on top the naga head. Congrats

[BluErf]

Are the blades tempered (sepuhan)? for such Bugis type blades with no pamor, the temper mark shd be fairly obvious.

[Gustav]

Hello Jentayu, thank you, also for posting your very nice and interesting keris for comparison. May I ask what is the estimation of age for your keris?

About "leaves" on the head of Naga - if there are no meanings - they could be also feathers.

[Jentayu]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Hello Jentayu, thank you, also for posting your very nice and interesting keris for comparison. May I ask what is the estimation of age for your keris?

About "leaves" on the head of Naga - if there are no meanings - they could be also feathers.

It is quite subjective to put dates on kerises, Gustav. Yup those thing above the naga head could also be feathers.....I guess if anyone out there who knows about what they are and the symbolic importance it has on keris naga bugis; would you like to share it with us?

[BluErf]

Btw, from the dress and hilt, these do not look like peninsula kerises.

[BluErf]

Likely to be Sulawesi, judging from the bulge in Gustav's keris sheath, and hilt.

[David]

Originally Posted by BluErf

Likely to be Sulawesi, judging from the bulge in Gustav's keris sheath, and hilt.

Sumatra was going to be my guess on Gustav's keris based on the style of the greneng, but i wouldn't place a bet on that.
As i know many of us are already aware, dress does not necessarily reveal the origin of the blade itself.

[BluErf]

Originally Posted by David

Sumatra was going to be my guess on Gustav's keris based on the style of the greneng, but i wouldn't place a bet on that.
As i know many of us are already aware, dress does not necessarily reveal the origin of the blade itself.

I cannot form any opinion about the blade...

[Gustav]

Hello Blu Erf,

could such greneng be expected from Sulawesi?

[Gustav]

I am always to late with my posts ... I need so much time to write on english

[BluErf]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Hello Blu Erf,

could such greneng be expected from Sulawesi?

Sulawesi kerises tend to have bigger greneng. The one on your blade is unusual for Sulawesi. I've seen some of these keris blades attributed to Sumbawa, but then again, this is not verifiable.