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Rick · 15th September 2009, 12:04 AM

Thanks Alan .

A. G. Maisey · 15th September 2009, 12:38 AM

It would be recent David. The patination is no trick at all. Even the appearance of old ivory with a judicial crack here and there is no trick.

Personally I like this sort of thing very much. As Marco says, this style of work is very expensive, but it is often exquisite.

Don't get me wrong:- I like simplicity too, and I like something that only prioritises the excellence of carving, but in really topline Bali dress the very best is most often really over the top. Its a cultural thing:- understatement is just not the Balinese way. Perhaps our natural inclination might be for quiet excellence, but that just doesn't fit with the exhuberance of Balinese art.

David · 15th September 2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Personally I like this sort of thing very much. As Marco says, this style of work is very expensive, but it is often exquisite.

Don't get me wrong:- I like simplicity too, and I like something that only prioritises the excellence of carving, but in really topline Bali dress the very best is most often really over the top. Its a cultural thing:- understatement is just not the Balinese way. Perhaps our natural inclination might be for quiet excellence, but that just doesn't fit with the exhuberance of Balinese art.

Well, i would say that i completely dislike this sort of thing either. Here are a couple more examples of this type of work from the Adrien Noe collection. I'm pretty fond of the one done up in silver.

David · 15th September 2009, 07:54 PM

Oh that's funny, i just realized that the first one i posted is the same as the one that Marco posted.

Well, at least now we know (or at least Marco does) where part of the collection ended up.

I like it a little better in the pics i posted (goes to show what good photography can do), but i still prefer the silver one for my own sensibilities.

David · 15th September 2009, 07:55 PM

And here's one more that i believe is gold over ebony.

Marcokeris · 16th September 2009, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Oh that's funny, i just realized that the first one i posted is the same as the one that Marco posted.

Well, at least now we know (or at least Marco does) where part of the collection ended up.

I like it a little better in the pics i posted (goes to show what good photography can do), but i still prefer the silver one for my own sensibilities.

Thanks David for nice pics. Yes i think the two ivory/gold hits are twins made by the same artist. (when i'll be in Bali again i'll try to know something more about.....if i try )
About the way (before or after)to put (or to work) the gold /silver over the hit ....
...i have a very very very old (nyamba?) hit with over a little piece of something like white gold (?). This hit could be very interesting for discussion..i'll try to do some pics soon

David · 16th September 2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Thanks David for nice pics. Yes i think the two ivory/gold hits are twins made by the same artist. (when i'll be in Bali again i'll try to know something more about.....if i try )

Marco, do you really think they are twins by the same artist. I am pretty sure they are the same exact hilt. The Noe Collection was sold off back in 1995 AFAIK and i am sure that parts of it are all over the place.

Sajen · 16th September 2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Marco, do you really think they are twins by the same artist. I am pretty sure they are the same exact hilt. The Noe Collection was sold off back in 1995 AFAIK and i am sure that parts of it are all over the place.

Hello David,

it seems to be the same hilt, look the crack in the forefinger of the right hand.

sajen

Marcokeris · 16th September 2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Marco, do you really think they are twins by the same artist. I am pretty sure they are the same exact hilt. The Noe Collection was sold off back in 1995 AFAIK and i am sure that parts of it are all over the place.

David i have seen better (sorry...i'm not young ... my brain sometimes goes in other places

) you are right! the hits are the same!! Mr. Noe had really very good eyes!

Rick · 15th September 2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Well, i would say that i completely dislike this sort of thing either. Here are a couple more examples of this type of work from the Adrien Noe collection. I'm pretty fond of the one done up in silver.

Thanks David, for the different set of pictures of that hilt .
Now I get how the gold work is attached .

David · 15th September 2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

It would be recent David. The patination is no trick at all. Even the appearance of old ivory with a judicial crack here and there is no trick.

If this is truly from the Noe Collection i guess the work can't be too recent. As far as i know he amassed most of his collection in the 1950s-60s.

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A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,054	It would be recent David. The patination is no trick at all. Even the appearance of old ivory with a judicial crack here and there is no trick. Personally I like this sort of thing very much. As Marco says, this style of work is very expensive, but it is often exquisite. Don't get me wrong:- I like simplicity too, and I like something that only prioritises the excellence of carving, but in really topline Bali dress the very best is most often really over the top. Its a cultural thing:- understatement is just not the Balinese way. Perhaps our natural inclination might be for quiet excellence, but that just doesn't fit with the exhuberance of Balinese art.

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David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,231	Oh that's funny, i just realized that the first one i posted is the same as the one that Marco posted. Well, at least now we know (or at least Marco does) where part of the collection ended up. I like it a little better in the pics i posted (goes to show what good photography can do), but i still prefer the silver one for my own sensibilities.