European(?) Hunting(?) Whatsit

[fernando]

Great "Pandour" plug bayonet ... great price, too.
The vestigial shell guard, remnant of hunting swords, and the cup shape ferrule, are German details that influenced plug bayonets from other countries ... Portugal, for one.
This specimen would certainly be from the XVIII century.
Fernando

[CourseEight]

Thanks so much everyone! I'll be ordering R.D.C. Evans' book directly. Thrilled that it is older and better than I had hoped!

I'd love to hear any other information that is out there, especially about the markings!

--Radleigh

[Jim McDougall]

Roger Evans is a brilliant researcher and has written on bayonets and every aspect of history on them imaginable for many years, some time ago used to write a monthly installent titled "Cold Steel".
He still writes regularly in "The Armourer" magazine in England, and I just renewed my subscription when I found out he was still writing there.

The information in "The Plug Bayonet" is amazingly detailed, especially in information on markings and motif, which is often a great asset in the study of swords, especially hunting swords and associated motif. These kinds of motof often found thier way to court swords and officers swords in the 18th century and into the 19th as officers were of course, gentry, and the same attention to popular fashion prevailed.

Best regards,
Jim

[katana]

Hi Radleigh,
the 'lames' is French for blades .....so perhaps French / French colonial made or retailed ?

Regards David

[fernando]

Hi David,

Originally Posted by katana

Hi Radleigh,
the 'lames' is French for blades .....so perhaps French / French colonial made or retailed ?

Regards David

Could well be!
... and Turck, the way it is spelled, could be the maker's/trader's name?!

BTW, i hope this is a sunny day in Kent

Fernando

[katana]

Originally Posted by fernando

Hi David,



BTW, i hope this is a sunny day in Kent

Fernando

Hi Fernando

thats what I like about the Portuguese ....forever the optimists...... its pouring down with rain

Turck is not bringing anything up on 'Google', although in 'Google maps' Turck is in Germany .....perhaps a German blade for the French market or as you suggested, the maker's name.

All the best
David

[fernando]

Originally Posted by katana

... thats what I like about the Portuguese ....forever the optimists...... its pouring down with rain ...

So i guessed; i just felt like droping in some British humour

Originally Posted by katana

...Turck is not bringing anything up on 'Google', although in 'Google maps' Turck is in Germany .....perhaps a German blade for the French market or as you suggested, the maker's name....

You don't tell that my local Google is better that Kent's one

http://fr-fr.facebook.com/Civodul?ref=mf
http://fr-fr.facebook.com/meluturck
http://www.mpipsykl.mpg.de/en/people/turck_c.shtml
http://www.kompass.com/pt/DE600517
http://heliopaz.com/tag/guga-turck/

Fernando