North African Rifle ID Help Please

Clubs & Arrows · 9th September 2009, 04:28 PM

Thank you everyone for your information. These rifles are not what I normally collect, which is South Pacific, Philippine, and Southeast Asian artifacts & weaponry, but I couldn't resist picking up the pair. They have already found a spot of my wall. Again, thank you everyone for the input.
Dom, I took photos of the poor condition rifle's barrel, because it appears to have the same script chiseled into it. I used different lighting in case that will help. Any help on that would be appreciated. The same barrel has a tiny signature hidden in the design on the top of the barrel, although I couldn't get a really sharp close up.

Best regards,
Joe

Dom · 11th September 2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Clubs & Arrows

Dom, I took photos of the poor condition rifle's barrel, because it appears to have the same script chiseled into it. I used different lighting in case that will help. Any help on that would be appreciated. The same barrel has a tiny signature hidden in the design on the top of the barrel, although I couldn't get a really sharp close up.

Hi Joe
here we are

at least, with the help of a second translator, we got the meaning of the sentence

the sentence on the barrel (same for both)
ALLAH SHARA IN JIHAD AL BEY'KA LA either; WE ARE READY FOR HOLY WAR (Jihad) IF GOD WILLING

what look like to be a stamp (?) from the blacksmith (?)
TA'HEB either; TA'HEB (no translation coze should be a name)

an other mark, no idea for what should be ??

(it's not a date

)
MAZ'B AL ?????

I leave it for more qualified than us ...

à +

Dom

ps: all transposition from arabic to european writing are respected the arabic direction of reading, I mean; from right to left

Clubs & Arrows · 14th September 2009, 03:31 AM

Dom,
Thank you very much for the translations. You have been a great help.

Best regards,
Joe

Dom · 17th September 2009, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

Hi Joe
here we are

at least, with the help of a second translator, we got the meaning of the sentence

the sentence on the barrel (same for both)
ALLAH SHARA IN JIHAD AL BEY'KA LA either; WE ARE READY FOR HOLY WAR (Jihad) IF GOD WILLING

AFTER REVIEW AND CORRECTION
ALLAH INCH' JIHAD AL BEY'KA LA either; WE ARE READY FOR HOLY WAR (Jihad) IF GOD WILLING

à +

Dom

Clubs & Arrows · 24th September 2009, 05:22 PM

Dom,
Thanks again for the further help with the translation.

Best regards,
Joe

9th September 2009, 04:28 PM	#1
Clubs & Arrows Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Gabriel Foothills, Southern California Posts: 94	Thank you everyone for your information. These rifles are not what I normally collect, which is South Pacific, Philippine, and Southeast Asian artifacts & weaponry, but I couldn't resist picking up the pair. They have already found a spot of my wall. Again, thank you everyone for the input. Dom, I took photos of the poor condition rifle's barrel, because it appears to have the same script chiseled into it. I used different lighting in case that will help. Any help on that would be appreciated. The same barrel has a tiny signature hidden in the design on the top of the barrel, although I couldn't get a really sharp close up. Best regards, Joe Attached Images

14th September 2009, 03:31 AM	#3
Clubs & Arrows Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Gabriel Foothills, Southern California Posts: 94	Dom, Thank you very much for the translations. You have been a great help. Best regards, Joe

24th September 2009, 05:22 PM	#5
Clubs & Arrows Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Gabriel Foothills, Southern California Posts: 94	Dom, Thanks again for the further help with the translation. Best regards, Joe