Tajong-viewing plesure & comments.

Michel · 30th August 2009, 02:55 PM

Hi Bluerf,
Folowing your information I turn to "Spirit of Wood" to try to identify the below shown Hulu. In spite of the many pictures and nice drawings, (what a marvelous book) I am not able to conclude that this Hulu is a Tajong, a Coteng, or a Bangsa Agung. For me it looks as a mixture but not a classical design in the Tagong family:
The sculpture is not as deep and sharp as the one you have shown and the polish not to the same level.
What is your opinion.
Regards
Michel

BluErf · 30th August 2009, 04:00 PM

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BluErf · 30th August 2009, 05:05 PM

Hello Michel,

This hilt of yours, unfortunately, is an 'imitation' hilt made in Java/Madura. It is not from N. Malaya. Hence, you were not able to identify what it was. Java/Madura has been making 'imitations' of tajong and even the silver coteng hilts for quite some time. Some of them look proper from the side, but do not look correct from any other angles, because these people worked on photographs taken from the side angle only.

Michel · 30th August 2009, 08:41 PM

Thank you Kai Wee,
I had some suspicions as I bought it in Jogjakarta.
No problem with your frankness, it is the right way to enable us to learn. Now, you identify this imitation due to the fact it is not corresponding to the rules of Tajong or because it is not sculpted as neatly and precisely as Nik Rashidin use to do !
Thanks again and regards

Michel.

David · 30th August 2009, 11:37 PM

Thanks for posting the diagrams Kai Wee, that's exactly what i was hoping for. I should have know to look in Spirit of Wood since i do own a copy, but i haven't looked throught it in a while and these diagrams slipped my mind.

30th August 2009, 02:55 PM	#1
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	hulu Tajong? Hi Bluerf, Folowing your information I turn to "Spirit of Wood" to try to identify the below shown Hulu. In spite of the many pictures and nice drawings, (what a marvelous book) I am not able to conclude that this Hulu is a Tajong, a Coteng, or a Bangsa Agung. For me it looks as a mixture but not a classical design in the Tagong family: The sculpture is not as deep and sharp as the one you have shown and the polish not to the same level. What is your opinion. Regards Michel Attached Images

30th August 2009, 04:00 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Removed. See posting below. Last edited by BluErf; 30th August 2009 at 05:06 PM.

30th August 2009, 08:41 PM	#4
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	Hulu Tajong ? Thank you Kai Wee, I had some suspicions as I bought it in Jogjakarta. No problem with your frankness, it is the right way to enable us to learn. Now, you identify this imitation due to the fact it is not corresponding to the rules of Tajong or because it is not sculpted as neatly and precisely as Nik Rashidin use to do ! Thanks again and regards Michel.

30th August 2009, 05:05 PM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hello Michel, This hilt of yours, unfortunately, is an 'imitation' hilt made in Java/Madura. It is not from N. Malaya. Hence, you were not able to identify what it was. Java/Madura has been making 'imitations' of tajong and even the silver coteng hilts for quite some time. Some of them look proper from the side, but do not look correct from any other angles, because these people worked on photographs taken from the side angle only.

30th August 2009, 11:37 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Thanks for posting the diagrams Kai Wee, that's exactly what i was hoping for. I should have know to look in Spirit of Wood since i do own a copy, but i haven't looked throught it in a while and these diagrams slipped my mind.