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Oncemore the Sumbawa hilts of Sajen, Ganjawulung and Marcokeris from another thread. To me they are like a sort of hybris of a bugis kerdas at the basis and Java yudowinatan or Bali bondolan like "head", often with a "bridge".
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A good "ORIGINAL" example?
(I'm thinking about III°Tammens book or about indonesian "Hulu Keris" book)
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I found the 2 pictures of men wearing keris on KIT website and a keris on RMV website when I searched for Sumbawa.
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One more thing, I have seen Sulawesi kerises with such hilt forms.
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With regards to Sumbawa kerises with toli-toli, I personally do not like them because they don't 'feel right'. They have this cookie-cutter look that I'm convinced they come out of one factory somewhere.
Also, the old toli-toli are either fabric, or in the case of really high-end old pieces, weaved out of silver or gold, but not like a chain, more like a rope, like the one in the picture below.But of course we know, anything is possible with sufficient patience and money. The toli-toli we see in the market is of course an fulfilling of mass market desires at a sufficiently low cost.
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Hi Bluerf,
I think the keris with toli-toli that you have shown is the same as the one below or a very close cousin. The one below is announced as coming from Riau-lingga Sumatera. Presently in the National Museum of Jakarta. This information is extracted from"Court Art of Indonesia" page 77 and 248. Although magnificent, it is a bit too heavily loaded with gold and precious stones for my humble taste. And we do not see the blade ! This book contains a number of extraordinary art pieces, in every aspects of Indonesian arts. At page 214 you can see a Sumbawa keris almost as heavily loaded with gold and precious stones and a particular toli-toli. second picture. Thanks for giving us your knowlege Michel |
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Thanks Kai Wee and Michel for these examples.
I think i would have guessed that second example from Court Arts as Sumatra as well.
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Yes, it is that keris.
I took pictures secretly when the guard was not looking. I didn't use flash, but had my tripod, hence I could only take from a certain angle. The thing about the Riau-Lingga keris is that even though it was covered in gold and gems, somehow it looked tastefully done. This is the major difference with the new knock-offs being made today which looked just gaudy/tacky. |
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That state keris, Tatarapa Sangajikai or Samparaja, is from Bima, East Sumbawa. Although looks similar, the form is different. The hilt, hilt cup, sheath's crosspiece, shaft and end-piece are different.. decorations and design are more elaborate.. the influence we can see in Central Sumatra in a simplier form, imho. |
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Thank you all for your open words and this lesson in learning!
sajen |
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