Sumbawa keris for enjoy and discussion

Sajen · 24th August 2009, 06:55 PM

Here the pictures of the "original" hilt and a close up how the blade fits inside the sheat.

A. G. Maisey · 24th August 2009, 11:02 PM

The workmanship in the hilt and pendok both look like Javanese workmanship to me.I am not talking about style here, but about the way in which elements of the work have been completed.

If that wooden hilt is the hilt that the keris came with, I'd be inclined to refit it.

Gustav · 25th August 2009, 09:37 AM

Hello Sajen,

this wooden hilt is nice.

Another thing - it seems to me, that the selut of this "original" hilt and toli-toli are pretty similar in style, but they are really different to the pendhok.

I think, the possibility this warangka comes from Sumbawa is great. They love such horn on the top and that curled grain.

A question - are the opening in this horn slice and the mouth of warangka identical in size?

Sajen · 25th August 2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

Hello Sajen,

this wooden hilt is nice.

Another thing - it seems to me, that the selut of this "original" hilt and toli-toli are pretty similar in style, but they are really different to the pendhok.

I think, the possibility this warangka comes from Sumbawa is great. They love such horn on the top and that curled grain.

A question - are the opening in this horn slice and the mouth of warangka identical in size?

Hello Gustav,

yes, identical. The horn piece go deeper inside the wooden part as it's visible from outside. Later I'll post a picture from the keris with the wooden hilt.

sajen

Sajen · 25th August 2009, 06:01 PM

Here a picture of the keris with the hilt from wood.

Gustav · 25th August 2009, 09:31 PM

Sajen,

to me it looks really good now

Have you seen this? I think, it would be interesting for you.

http://keris.fotopic.net/c1391296.html

Sajen · 25th August 2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

Sajen,

to me it looks really good now

Have you seen this? I think, it would be interesting for you.

http://keris.fotopic.net/c1391296.html

Gustav,

thank's, yes this hilt fits very good with all other, I every time change between both hilts.
The keris from the link I know from this site, a very nice keris indeed, thank's for the link.

Detlef

Marcokeris · 26th August 2009, 01:57 PM

[QUOTE=Gustav]Sajen,

to me it looks really good now

Also I have the same opinion.

....About the Sumbawa keris: i remember that two years ago in Balì I saw many many Sumbawa keris for sale. Really many many keris. The strange thing was that bebore Sumbawa keris were (for me) very difficult to see in Balì (i never had seen one before in Balì). Also the (IMO new) hit similar to Banjarmasin hits i saw for the first time in Bali 4/5 years ago (before one...the year after many)

About sarong ... I remember a few years ago in Taman Sari area (Yogya) I saw two big wooden boxes full of Lombok sarong (very nice work and made by really good wood). The owner told me that they are all new, made in Jawa and right to send to Lombok/Bali market

24th August 2009, 06:55 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Here the pictures of the "original" hilt and a close up how the blade fits inside the sheat. Attached Images

25th August 2009, 06:01 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Here a picture of the keris with the hilt from wood. Attached Images

24th August 2009, 11:02 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	The workmanship in the hilt and pendok both look like Javanese workmanship to me.I am not talking about style here, but about the way in which elements of the work have been completed. If that wooden hilt is the hilt that the keris came with, I'd be inclined to refit it.

25th August 2009, 09:37 AM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Hello Sajen, this wooden hilt is nice. Another thing - it seems to me, that the selut of this "original" hilt and toli-toli are pretty similar in style, but they are really different to the pendhok. I think, the possibility this warangka comes from Sumbawa is great. They love such horn on the top and that curled grain. A question - are the opening in this horn slice and the mouth of warangka identical in size?

25th August 2009, 09:31 PM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Sajen, to me it looks really good now Have you seen this? I think, it would be interesting for you. http://keris.fotopic.net/c1391296.html

26th August 2009, 01:57 PM	#8
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	[QUOTE=Gustav]Sajen, to me it looks really good now Also I have the same opinion. ....About the Sumbawa keris: i remember that two years ago in Balì I saw many many Sumbawa keris for sale. Really many many keris. The strange thing was that bebore Sumbawa keris were (for me) very difficult to see in Balì (i never had seen one before in Balì). Also the (IMO new) hit similar to Banjarmasin hits i saw for the first time in Bali 4/5 years ago (before one...the year after many) About sarong ... I remember a few years ago in Taman Sari area (Yogya) I saw two big wooden boxes full of Lombok sarong (very nice work and made by really good wood). The owner told me that they are all new, made in Jawa and right to send to Lombok/Bali market