Tulwar?

Jens Nordlunde · 12th August 2009, 04:37 PM

Michael, do you have close ups of the tulwar hilt and the place where the disc was?

If it looks like an old remove of the disc I would leave it as it is. You sometimes see hilts like this, but not very often. Tirri shows one, and I have heard of two others taken near the Khyber pass, after the last British cavalry attack around 1930.

Michael Blalock · 12th August 2009, 04:42 PM

I don't have it yet. I will post when I do.

Emanuel · 12th August 2009, 05:02 PM

KuKulZa, a tegha blade is often as wide as the guard, almost reaching the finials of the quillons.
There is no rule for this, it's more to do with the general proportions of the thing, blade width to hilt proportions. Rule of thumb I use - tulwar blades are narrower than the disk pommel, while tegha blades are wider than the disk.

Compare below, tegha from OA.

sandeepsingh · 13th August 2009, 05:23 PM

Nice Tegha

Thanks Emanuel and KuKulzA28 for the recommodation !

Sandeep

Michael Blalock · 24th August 2009, 12:53 PM

I took some photos of this Tulwar. My camera is only working in wide angle mode so the focus is poor in close-ups.
The hilt not really that nice, cast brass with a cast or cut in pattern. Is this a european blade. I have seen the stamped makers mark elsewhere. It looks like a bee or fly to me. Maybe on this site as some time.
I think I can see a pattern in the steel but I am not sure, though the pictures don't show as much as the naked eye. If it's european there this would not be wootz? I tried some nitric acid, which did not seem to bring any more out. Do I have to polish the steel to see the pattern better? Should I use the 3M wet/dry paper? Sand with oil, or dry sand?

I assume the hilt is set in pitch and if I heat it up the blade should pull out?

Norman McCormick · 24th August 2009, 03:54 PM

Hi,
I like the blade, I don't think its European, well, Western European anyway.
Regards,
Norman.

Jens Nordlunde · 24th August 2009, 05:01 PM

Neither do I, I agree with Norman. I think the blade is Indian, and I have seen marks on Indian blades – not quite like the one shown, but alike.

12th August 2009, 05:02 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	KuKulZa, a tegha blade is often as wide as the guard, almost reaching the finials of the quillons. There is no rule for this, it's more to do with the general proportions of the thing, blade width to hilt proportions. Rule of thumb I use - tulwar blades are narrower than the disk pommel, while tegha blades are wider than the disk. Compare below, tegha from OA. Attached Images

24th August 2009, 12:53 PM	#5
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	I took some photos of this Tulwar. My camera is only working in wide angle mode so the focus is poor in close-ups. The hilt not really that nice, cast brass with a cast or cut in pattern. Is this a european blade. I have seen the stamped makers mark elsewhere. It looks like a bee or fly to me. Maybe on this site as some time. I think I can see a pattern in the steel but I am not sure, though the pictures don't show as much as the naked eye. If it's european there this would not be wootz? I tried some nitric acid, which did not seem to bring any more out. Do I have to polish the steel to see the pattern better? Should I use the 3M wet/dry paper? Sand with oil, or dry sand? I assume the hilt is set in pitch and if I heat it up the blade should pull out? Attached Images

12th August 2009, 04:37 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Michael, do you have close ups of the tulwar hilt and the place where the disc was? If it looks like an old remove of the disc I would leave it as it is. You sometimes see hilts like this, but not very often. Tirri shows one, and I have heard of two others taken near the Khyber pass, after the last British cavalry attack around 1930.

12th August 2009, 04:42 PM	#2
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	I don't have it yet. I will post when I do.

13th August 2009, 05:23 PM	#4
sandeepsingh Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: India Posts: 85	Nice Tegha Thanks Emanuel and KuKulzA28 for the recommodation ! Sandeep

24th August 2009, 03:54 PM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi, I like the blade, I don't think its European, well, Western European anyway. Regards, Norman.

24th August 2009, 05:01 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Neither do I, I agree with Norman. I think the blade is Indian, and I have seen marks on Indian blades – not quite like the one shown, but alike.