small dha

wilked aka Khun Deng · 11th August 2009, 07:11 PM

Memory is such a fragile thing. Yes Mark those are the posters i sent you and that is the book, specifically Lung Phra Derm, pictured on the poster.
I actually got the book from the same lady in the reflection of the pictures posted by khandjar1, but they had others at the Chatu Chak market. i doubt that it's anything you could pick up outside the country.

And yes you are correct that the defining feature is that is was blessed by a prominent monk, though most current ones (i'd guess last 50 years or so -it;s a generational thing I believe - makers and monks team up on these things) do follow a similar blade profile and scabbard shape, many, especially the smaller ones having a rectangular bone scabbard with 3 to 4 metal binding (larger ones generally wood but same profile).

Which is why I believe Freddy has a very old one - the scabbard fits the older profile (sword and dha) as well as the grip and while the blade doesn't have the same decoration and script it does have some, which is unusual for an older blade, all supporting what the dealer claims that it is a meed maw or meed phra (used interchangeably).

How are you my friend, the last few years have been a blur for me. Apologies for not staying in better contact with you and the rest of the Dha Guys.

Dan

wilked aka Khun Deng · 11th August 2009, 07:15 PM

After reading the poster i must correct myself the priest's name is Lung Paw Derm ("Lung" being the honorific, equivalent to Uncle but more respectful)

Freddy · 11th August 2009, 07:27 PM

Interesting discussion and good information. Thanks, guys.

I thought that the miniature dha like the one Khanjar1 showed were mere tourist items. If I understand correctly, these are talismanic knives.

Will need to look for one, as I like small knives.

Mark · 12th August 2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wilked aka Khun Deng

How are you my friend, the last few years have been a blur for me. Apologies for not staying in better contact with you and the rest of the Dha Guys.

Dan

Plugging along. The big change is a move from Virginia up to NJ a couple years ago now (changed jobs, and loving it). You've been missed, bro. Its good to see you posting again.

I've been very restrained in my dha acquisition the last few years, and have actually sold more than I've bought I think. I just picked up a beaut, though, which I will post once I get it in hand. It is a Thai daab/katana fusion, with a blade that has a profile very like a liewei dao, so its quite unique.

Now returning you to your regularly scheduled thread ....

Mark · 12th August 2009, 05:38 PM

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet about meed phra is the engraving on the scabbards. I have one which has very faint traced designs and writing, probably done with a pin or needle. A similar design is visible near the throat of the scabbard of Stuart's mini-meed. I assume that these are created by the monk during the blessing ceremony. I'd post photos, but they are almost impossible to see.

Andrew · 13th August 2009, 09:55 PM

Dan!

Howsya?

Andrew · 13th August 2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

I've been very restrained in my dha acquisition the last few years, and have actually sold more than I've bought I think. I just picked up a beaut, though, which I will post once I get it in hand. It is a Thai daab/katana fusion, with a blade that has a profile very like a liewei dao, so its quite unique.

"Restrained" being, obviously, a relative term.

Post that puppy up, man!

What swords have you sold that I haven't been offered? I can think of at least two you have that should be safely stored in a climate-controlled office in Fort Lauderdale...

wilked aka Khun Deng · 14th August 2009, 12:52 PM

Andrew,
Still trying to get your hands on some of Mark's collection i see

While I'd love to stay and chat I'm in transit home and have only this one night in Bangkok and the neon across the street is calling my name.

It's time to empty my baht gun

wilked aka Khun Deng · 17th August 2009, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilked aka Khun Deng

Andrew,
Still trying to get your hands on some of Mark's collection i see

While I'd love to stay and chat I'm in transit home and have only this one night in Bangkok and the neon across the street is calling my name.

It's time to empty my baht gun

BTW so none get the wrong impression "Baht" is Thai money. You get your reload at the ATM and then we generally (since it looks like play money to us) place our wallets on full auto and spray it around the economy

And yes I emptied my that night

11th August 2009, 07:11 PM	#1
wilked aka Khun Deng Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 166	Memory Memory is such a fragile thing. Yes Mark those are the posters i sent you and that is the book, specifically Lung Phra Derm, pictured on the poster. I actually got the book from the same lady in the reflection of the pictures posted by khandjar1, but they had others at the Chatu Chak market. i doubt that it's anything you could pick up outside the country. And yes you are correct that the defining feature is that is was blessed by a prominent monk, though most current ones (i'd guess last 50 years or so -it;s a generational thing I believe - makers and monks team up on these things) do follow a similar blade profile and scabbard shape, many, especially the smaller ones having a rectangular bone scabbard with 3 to 4 metal binding (larger ones generally wood but same profile). Which is why I believe Freddy has a very old one - the scabbard fits the older profile (sword and dha) as well as the grip and while the blade doesn't have the same decoration and script it does have some, which is unusual for an older blade, all supporting what the dealer claims that it is a meed maw or meed phra (used interchangeably). How are you my friend, the last few years have been a blur for me. Apologies for not staying in better contact with you and the rest of the Dha Guys. Dan

11th August 2009, 07:15 PM	#2
wilked aka Khun Deng Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 166	After reading the poster i must correct myself the priest's name is Lung Paw Derm ("Lung" being the honorific, equivalent to Uncle but more respectful)

11th August 2009, 07:27 PM	#3
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Interesting discussion and good information. Thanks, guys. I thought that the miniature dha like the one Khanjar1 showed were mere tourist items. If I understand correctly, these are talismanic knives. Will need to look for one, as I like small knives.

12th August 2009, 05:38 PM	#5
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet about meed phra is the engraving on the scabbards. I have one which has very faint traced designs and writing, probably done with a pin or needle. A similar design is visible near the throat of the scabbard of Stuart's mini-meed. I assume that these are created by the monk during the blessing ceremony. I'd post photos, but they are almost impossible to see.

13th August 2009, 09:55 PM	#6
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Dan! Howsya?

14th August 2009, 12:52 PM	#8
wilked aka Khun Deng Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 166	Andrew, Still trying to get your hands on some of Mark's collection i see While I'd love to stay and chat I'm in transit home and have only this one night in Bangkok and the neon across the street is calling my name. It's time to empty my baht gun