Head Hunter Weapons

trenchwarfare · 9th August 2009, 04:22 AM

I meant to add, I know that Asmat heads aren't trophies. Just revered ancestors, and such. Quite possibly because, the Asmat, were cannibals. In my research, I have found that: Headhunters are rarely cannibals, and cannibals, are rarely headhunters. Yes, I plan to do other body parts as well. Too many gruesome, gory, tid-bits, not too.

There's, scalps, ears, arm bone whistles, and belly skin drums. The list goes on and on.

Maurice · 9th August 2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by trenchwarfare

Headhunters are rarely cannibals, and cannibals, are rarely headhunters.

In the rule that looks true to me, but exceptions there are for sure!
Carl Bock for instance writes in his book about a fearsome dayakgroup in the Kutai area (east Borneo) who were eating parts of their beheaded victims.
I thought he called them the "Tring" dayaks. But I am not 100% sure, I will look it up to confirm when I have some time soon.

David · 9th August 2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

In the rule that looks true to me, but exceptions there are for sure!
Carl Bock for instance writes in his book about a fearsome dayakgroup in the Kutai area (east Borneo) who were eating parts of their beheaded victims.
I thought he called them the "Tring" dayaks. But I am not 100% sure, I will look it up to confirm when I have some time soon.

Yes Maurice, there were reports that the Tring were also cannibals, though this is some question as to whether or not these reports were exaggerated or not.
Here is a print of a Tring warrior from Carl Bock.

Maurice · 9th August 2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Yes Maurice, there were reports that the Tring were also cannibals, though this is some question as to whether or not these reports were exaggerated or not.
Here is a print of a Tring warrior from Carl Bock.

Thank you David, I now don't have to sniff in the book anymore. And I agree with you on the exaggeration part. He also wrote about his willing badly to meet the "tailed-people" which he never found ofcourse.

(but he didn't exaggerate and wrote that he met them on that part

).

VANDOO · 10th August 2009, 04:04 AM

A ESPECIALLY NICE IKAT (CEREMONIAL WOVEN FABRIC/ART) CLOSED ON EBAY #280379146499 THESE WEAVINGS OFTEN TELL A STORY OF THE BELIEFS AND CUSTOMS OF THE TRIBE WHO MADE THEM AND IF A PERSON UNDERSTOOD THEY COULD LEARN QUITE A LOT ABOUT THE CUSTOMS AND BELIEFS. THIS ONE HAS A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE SKULL TREES JUST OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE WHERE SKULLS WERE LEFT TO ROT AND TO BE WON OVER TO GIVING THEIR SPIRITUAL POWER TO THE VILLAGE WHO KILLED THEM. THIS ONE IS FROM SUMBA/TIMOR INDONESIA. ONCE THE SPIRITS WERE WON OVER THEY COULD SAFELY BE BROUGHT INTO THE VILLAGE.

I HAVE SEEN THE SALAMPASU TRIBE OF AFRICA REFEREDTO AS HEADHUNTERS BUT DON'T KNOW THE PARTICULARS. SEVERAL TRIBES HAVE STRANGE FORMS OF EXECUTION BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT PART THE BEHEADING PLAYED OR IF THE HEADS WERE KEPT.

IN NEW GUINEA AS MENTIONED THERE ARE THE HEADS OF ANCESTORS KEPT AND IN SOME AREAS THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE WOODCARVED BASE CALLED A KORWAR. I HAVE SEEN SKULL RACKS WITH MANY SKULLS AS WELL AND SUSPECT THOSE WERE THE SKULLS FROM THE ENEMY.

SKULLS AND OTHER BODY PARTS WERE USED AT TIMES AS BOUNDARY MARKERS A SORT OF NO TRESSPASSING SIGN. IN THE AZTEC CITIES THERE WERE VERY LARGE SKULL RACKS WITH THE SKULLS OF THOSE SACRIFICED TO THE GODS. THERE WAS A SPECIAL SKULL PLATFORM FOR THE BEST BALL PLAYER OF THE GAMES NEAR THE MAIN STADIUM WHERE THE IMPORTANT BALL GAMES WERE PLAYED. IF YOU WERE VOTED BEST PLAYER YOU HAD THE HONOR OF BEING SACRIFICED AND YOUR SKULL JOINED ALL THE OTHER GREAT PLAYERS ON THE PODIUM.

AS TO CANNIBALS NOT BEING HEADHUNTERS IT WOULD DEPEND IF THEY ATE THE HEAD IF SO NO TROPHY. IN FIJI THEY USUALLY FINISHED OFF A ENEMY WITH A HEAVY CLUB STRIKE TO THE HEAD WHICH WOULD CAUSE DAMMAGE AND I THINK BRAINS WERE A FAVORED DISH. THE TEETH WERE OFTEN KEPT AND SOMETIMES USED FOR INLAY IN WAR CLUBS AND SUCH.

9th August 2009, 04:22 AM	#1
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	I meant to add, I know that Asmat heads aren't trophies. Just revered ancestors, and such. Quite possibly because, the Asmat, were cannibals. In my research, I have found that: Headhunters are rarely cannibals, and cannibals, are rarely headhunters. Yes, I plan to do other body parts as well. Too many gruesome, gory, tid-bits, not too. There's, scalps, ears, arm bone whistles, and belly skin drums. The list goes on and on.

10th August 2009, 04:04 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A ESPECIALLY NICE IKAT (CEREMONIAL WOVEN FABRIC/ART) CLOSED ON EBAY #280379146499 THESE WEAVINGS OFTEN TELL A STORY OF THE BELIEFS AND CUSTOMS OF THE TRIBE WHO MADE THEM AND IF A PERSON UNDERSTOOD THEY COULD LEARN QUITE A LOT ABOUT THE CUSTOMS AND BELIEFS. THIS ONE HAS A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE SKULL TREES JUST OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE WHERE SKULLS WERE LEFT TO ROT AND TO BE WON OVER TO GIVING THEIR SPIRITUAL POWER TO THE VILLAGE WHO KILLED THEM. THIS ONE IS FROM SUMBA/TIMOR INDONESIA. ONCE THE SPIRITS WERE WON OVER THEY COULD SAFELY BE BROUGHT INTO THE VILLAGE. I HAVE SEEN THE SALAMPASU TRIBE OF AFRICA REFEREDTO AS HEADHUNTERS BUT DON'T KNOW THE PARTICULARS. SEVERAL TRIBES HAVE STRANGE FORMS OF EXECUTION BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT PART THE BEHEADING PLAYED OR IF THE HEADS WERE KEPT. IN NEW GUINEA AS MENTIONED THERE ARE THE HEADS OF ANCESTORS KEPT AND IN SOME AREAS THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE WOODCARVED BASE CALLED A KORWAR. I HAVE SEEN SKULL RACKS WITH MANY SKULLS AS WELL AND SUSPECT THOSE WERE THE SKULLS FROM THE ENEMY. SKULLS AND OTHER BODY PARTS WERE USED AT TIMES AS BOUNDARY MARKERS A SORT OF NO TRESSPASSING SIGN. IN THE AZTEC CITIES THERE WERE VERY LARGE SKULL RACKS WITH THE SKULLS OF THOSE SACRIFICED TO THE GODS. THERE WAS A SPECIAL SKULL PLATFORM FOR THE BEST BALL PLAYER OF THE GAMES NEAR THE MAIN STADIUM WHERE THE IMPORTANT BALL GAMES WERE PLAYED. IF YOU WERE VOTED BEST PLAYER YOU HAD THE HONOR OF BEING SACRIFICED AND YOUR SKULL JOINED ALL THE OTHER GREAT PLAYERS ON THE PODIUM. AS TO CANNIBALS NOT BEING HEADHUNTERS IT WOULD DEPEND IF THEY ATE THE HEAD IF SO NO TROPHY. IN FIJI THEY USUALLY FINISHED OFF A ENEMY WITH A HEAVY CLUB STRIKE TO THE HEAD WHICH WOULD CAUSE DAMMAGE AND I THINK BRAINS WERE A FAVORED DISH. THE TEETH WERE OFTEN KEPT AND SOMETIMES USED FOR INLAY IN WAR CLUBS AND SUCH.