Philippine Kris or Keris

aerosick · 2nd August 2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I would guess from the pictures that the pommel would be a coin silver from the looks in the pictures. IT looks large but right for a pre-20th century piece.

Measurements of the pommel (cockatua?):

From long end of Guard (Gangya) to the top of the head = 5.32” ~ 13.5 cm

From Underside of Cockatua on Wide Side to Guard (Gangya) = 4.55” ~ 11.56 cm

From Underside of Cockatua on Narrow Side to Guard (Gangya) = 3.22” ~ 8.18

Rectangular beak Height = 1.05” ~ 2.67 cm

Width:

Top Across Widest Area = 0.78” ~ 1.98 cm

Bottom Across Widest Area = 0.62” ~ 1.57 cm

Widest area of the Cockatua is at the eyes = 1.83” ~ 4.65 cm

Billy

Rick · 3rd August 2009, 02:23 AM

I think this pommel would qualify as danganan style in size according to Cato's Moro Swords fig. 45 pg 74 .

Battara · 4th August 2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I think this pommel would qualify as danganan style in size according to Cato's Moro Swords fig. 45 pg 74 .

"You are correct sir!"

aerosick · 4th August 2009, 02:58 AM

I see where the pommel is more in the shape of the sarimanok bird rather than the cockatua. My wife is originally from Cebu, Philippines. I asked her if she had ever heard of the mythical "sarimanok" bird. She said "Sure! It's the Logo of a Philippine TV Network"!

Billy

Amuk Murugul · 4th August 2009, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aerosick

..... cockatua. ..... "sarimanok" bird.

Hullo Billy,

- The original meaning of 'sarimanok' was 'essentially/fundamentally bird', referring to the pommel's general shape.

- As for 'cockatua', the original meaning was 'spiny parrot', referring to the head-plumage, which resembles spines/spikes.

Best,

aerosick · 4th August 2009, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo Billy,

- The original meaning of 'sarimanok' was 'essentially/fundamentally bird', referring to the pommel's general shape.

- As for 'cockatua', the original meaning was 'spiny parrot', referring to the head-plumage, which resembles spines/spikes.

Best,

That makes a clearer picture in my old head. I'm learning more and more every day here.

Thanks!

Billy

aerosick · 7th August 2009, 04:55 AM

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aerosick Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 25	I see where the pommel is more in the shape of the sarimanok bird rather than the cockatua. My wife is originally from Cebu, Philippines. I asked her if she had ever heard of the mythical "sarimanok" bird. She said "Sure! It's the Logo of a Philippine TV Network"! Billy