Philippine Kris or Keris

aerosick · 21st July 2009, 10:17 PM

The auction was 3 days ago. I have not received an Invoice yet, so I am not sure when my Kris will arrive. When it does I hope I can provide more details and (of course) close-up photos.

Billy

Battara · 22nd July 2009, 02:46 AM

The blade does look Sulu.

Rick · 22nd July 2009, 02:55 AM

Looking forward to your pictures; don't forget a closeup of the sorsoran, or base of the blade .

I wonder if the other color on the hilt may be Swassa .

It may even have a core; include a closeup of the blade too !!

This one looks nice .

Rick

Battara · 22nd July 2009, 03:48 AM

O yes, I forgot - I doubt that the pommel is solid - it would be too heavy!

aerosick · 1st August 2009, 07:46 PM

I got my Kris yesterday! I will start with this Post on the blade. Forgive me if I butcher the different names of the parts, but this is my 1st genuine (I believe) Kris. I go to the Philippines at least yearly and I've seen many "tourist" Kris for sale, but this is my 1st experience holding one. I will refer to the Left and Right sides looking down towards the tip while holding it.

For those of you that want to jump ahead, I have 45 photos here: http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/aerosick/Kris/

Measurements and Details:

The laminated (?) blade is a fully waved with 13 waves.

Has a talisman chiseled into the blade.

Total Weight of Kris and Scabbard = 2 lbs 1 oz ~ 936 grams

Weight of Kris = 1 lb 5 oz ~ 595 grams

Weight of Scabbard = 12 oz ~ 340 grams

Overall Length = 27.625” ~ 700 mm

Length of Blade = 22” ~ 560 mm

Width of Blade at Balance (4.25” ~ 108 mm below Guard) = 1.4” ~ 36 mm

Depth of Blade at Balance = 0.2” ~ 5 mm

Hilt Length = 5.625” ~ 140 mm

Width of Guard (Gangya) = 4.25” ~ 108 mm

Left Side

Right Side

Left Top

Right Top

David · 1st August 2009, 11:00 PM

Hey Billy. Nice to see you on this forum. I think you might get some more responses here.

So, have you tested the pommel material yet? Some close-ups of the hilt might be good. I also wonder if the ferrule might be suasa (a low carat gold with a lot of copper in it) instead of copper.
How well does the blade fit into the scabbard? Is it well fitted around the mouth?

aerosick · 2nd August 2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Hey Billy. Nice to see you on this forum. I think you might get some more responses here.

So, have you tested the pommel material yet? Some close-ups of the hilt might be good. I also wonder if the ferrule might be suasa (a low carat gold with a lot of copper in it) instead of copper.
How well does the blade fit into the scabbard? Is it well fitted around the mouth?

David,

I have not tested the pommel material yet. I'm going slow and need to learn more about the testing.

The blade fits the scabbard very well around the mouth and also at the bottom. The mouth of the scabbard where the long end of Gangya sits shows that maybe the tip of the Gangya might have broken off. I will take more photos tomorrow in good light.

aerosick · 2nd August 2009, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Some close-ups of the hilt might be good.

David,

The silver and copper (my guess so far) braided wires have just a few broken spots. The copper wire is pliable. You can see the museum's tape on it. The lower tape has their record number 8642.L and the scabbard has the number 8641.L.

1st August 2009, 07:46 PM	#5
aerosick Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 25	The Blade I got my Kris yesterday! I will start with this Post on the blade. Forgive me if I butcher the different names of the parts, but this is my 1st genuine (I believe) Kris. I go to the Philippines at least yearly and I've seen many "tourist" Kris for sale, but this is my 1st experience holding one. I will refer to the Left and Right sides looking down towards the tip while holding it. For those of you that want to jump ahead, I have 45 photos here: http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/aerosick/Kris/ Measurements and Details: The laminated (?) blade is a fully waved with 13 waves. Has a talisman chiseled into the blade. Total Weight of Kris and Scabbard = 2 lbs 1 oz ~ 936 grams Weight of Kris = 1 lb 5 oz ~ 595 grams Weight of Scabbard = 12 oz ~ 340 grams Overall Length = 27.625” ~ 700 mm Length of Blade = 22” ~ 560 mm Width of Blade at Balance (4.25” ~ 108 mm below Guard) = 1.4” ~ 36 mm Depth of Blade at Balance = 0.2” ~ 5 mm Hilt Length = 5.625” ~ 140 mm Width of Guard (Gangya) = 4.25” ~ 108 mm Left Side Right Side Left Top Right Top

21st July 2009, 10:17 PM	#1
aerosick Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 25	The auction was 3 days ago. I have not received an Invoice yet, so I am not sure when my Kris will arrive. When it does I hope I can provide more details and (of course) close-up photos. Billy

22nd July 2009, 02:46 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	The blade does look Sulu.

22nd July 2009, 02:55 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Looking forward to your pictures; don't forget a closeup of the sorsoran, or base of the blade . I wonder if the other color on the hilt may be Swassa . It may even have a core; include a closeup of the blade too !! This one looks nice . Rick

22nd July 2009, 03:48 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	O yes, I forgot - I doubt that the pommel is solid - it would be too heavy!

1st August 2009, 11:00 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Hey Billy. Nice to see you on this forum. I think you might get some more responses here. So, have you tested the pommel material yet? Some close-ups of the hilt might be good. I also wonder if the ferrule might be suasa (a low carat gold with a lot of copper in it) instead of copper. How well does the blade fit into the scabbard? Is it well fitted around the mouth?