MADURA ornamental hilts

ganjawulung · 14th July 2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

The Netherlands have indeed a big resource of keris and hilts and nowadays most of the time by better price than in Indonesia.

You are probably right, Sajen. I know last year my "dealer" Yogya-friend has sent more than 1.000 kerises and handles to Holland, and also some to Malaysia, during a keris exhibition there...

But still, thousands of keris population in Jawa, Madura, Bali and Lombok. Old and new products. Yes, I've seen too, some Lombok dealers has dealt with Malaysian collectors too... That's keris life

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 14th July 2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

You are probably right, Sajen. I know last year my "dealer" Yogya-friend has sent more than 1.000 kerises and handles to Holland, and also some to Malaysia, during a keris exhibition there...

But still, thousands of keris population in Jawa, Madura, Bali and Lombok. Old and new products. Yes, I've seen too, some Lombok dealers has dealt with Malaysian collectors too... That's keris life

GANJAWULUNG

Hello Ganja,

yes, still many good things you can get in Indonesia when look around but the prices climb up a lot!

sajen

erikscollectables · 15th July 2009, 08:33 PM

Unfortunately I have not been to Indonesia yet...now I will wait a few years untill the youngest is 4 or 5 before we go. I do not like buying from photo's to much so almost all pieces I have were bought in Holland. Of course some the items were laready more recently imported by dealers here but most have been overhere sind the end of the '40s of last century...

A group of Madura handles and my favorite Donoriko in ivory and the favorite in wood in close ups.

Regards, Erik

Sajen · 17th July 2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by erikscollectables

Unfortunately I have not been to Indonesia yet...now I will wait a few years untill the youngest is 4 or 5 before we go. I do not like buying from photo's to much so almost all pieces I have were bought in Holland. Of course some the items were laready more recently imported by dealers here but most have been overhere sind the end of the '40s of last century...

A group of Madura handles and my favorite Donoriko in ivory and the favorite in wood in close ups.

Regards, Erik

Dear Erik,

our youngest son haven't been one year old when he go to Indonesia first time. It's no problem to travel in Indonesia with children.

BTW, nice collection Erik.

sajen

ganjawulung · 17th July 2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

yes, still many good things you can get in Indonesia when look around but the prices climb up a lot!

It depends on where and from whom you get them. Jakarta is one of the best place to get all types of kerises of Indonesia...

Here is one of my recent collection. Quite unique Maduran patrem sheath -- with motif of "singa" (lion) and small Maduran patrem handle with "soldier" motif...

GANJAWULUNG

ganjawulung · 17th July 2009, 08:03 AM

More close ups on the Maduran patrem handle...

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 17th July 2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

It depends on where and from whom you get them. Jakarta is one of the best place to get all types of kerises of Indonesia...

Here is one of my recent collection. Quite unique Maduran patrem sheath -- with motif of "singa" (lion) and small Maduran patrem handle with "soldier" motif...

GANJAWULUNG

Wow, very nice patrem keris. Myabe I have to visit Jarkarta by my next visit in Indonesia. It's long time ago that I have been there (1992) but there I buy my first keris handle and by this start my collection! And until now it's one of my favorite keris handles.

sajen

ganjawulung · 17th July 2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Wow, very nice patrem keris. Myabe I have to visit Jarkarta by my next visit in Indonesia. It's long time ago that I have been there (1992) but there I buy my first keris handle and by this start my collection! And until now it's one of my favorite keris handles.

And not to forget to visit The National Museum of Jakarta, Sajen. They have beautiful collections of Indonesian kerises in excellent dresses and excellent accessories too... Whether they are javanese, Riau, Palembang, Minang, Banjarmasin kerises....

And this is more keris sheath of my recent collection. A quite unique motif of sheath -- bird-motif. IMHO, it is a Maduran sheath...

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 17th July 2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

And not to forget to visit The National Museum of Jakarta, Sajen. They have beautiful collections of Indonesian kerises in excellent dresses and excellent accessories too... Whether they are javanese, Riau, Palembang, Minang, Banjarmasin kerises....

And this is more keris sheath of my recent collection. A quite unique motif of sheath -- bird-motif. IMHO, it is a Maduran sheath...

GANJAWULUNG

Dear Ganja,

yes, this will be the main reason to visit Jakarta! It will be also nice to see a great collection of a private man over there!!!

Very interesting and awesome sheat, terima kasih for sharing.

Detlef

David · 17th July 2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

It depends on where and from whom you get them. Jakarta is one of the best place to get all types of kerises of Indonesia...

Here is one of my recent collection. Quite unique Maduran patrem sheath -- with motif of "singa" (lion) and small Maduran patrem handle with "soldier" motif...

GANJAWULUNG

Nice example of this form of dress. I don't think it is particularly unique as i have seen quite a few of this style, but yours has nice attention to detail. It has always been my understanding that this particular form was made for Dutch soldiers to bring home keris from Jawa back in the day. Sort of the original "tourist" keris. Perhaps others know different.

ganjawulung · 17th July 2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David

It has always been my understanding that this particular form was made for Dutch soldiers to bring home keris from Jawa back in the day. Sort of the original "tourist" keris. Perhaps others know different.

Yes, probably you are right, David. Anyway, it is a funny motif -- not so mystical at all...

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 17th July 2009, 09:02 PM

In my opinion are this jurigan sheaths very attractive. You can find some with very fine and unique carvings.

sajen

Rick · 18th July 2009, 01:52 AM

I find the bird form wrongko fascinating and beautiful .
The lion is nicely done also .

15th July 2009, 08:33 PM	#3
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	Unfortunately I have not been to Indonesia yet...now I will wait a few years untill the youngest is 4 or 5 before we go. I do not like buying from photo's to much so almost all pieces I have were bought in Holland. Of course some the items were laready more recently imported by dealers here but most have been overhere sind the end of the '40s of last century... A group of Madura handles and my favorite Donoriko in ivory and the favorite in wood in close ups. Regards, Erik Attached Images

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ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	More close ups on the Maduran patrem handle... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,415	In my opinion are this jurigan sheaths very attractive. You can find some with very fine and unique carvings. sajen

18th July 2009, 01:52 AM	#13
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I find the bird form wrongko fascinating and beautiful . The lion is nicely done also .