Two Indo-Persian ? daggers for I.D. and comment

TVV · 12th July 2009, 08:34 PM

Colin,
I believe that the hilt of the top dagger is unmistakebly Ottoman, and is typically found on daggers that are described as being worn in the Ottoman court.
I am attaching a scan from Astvatsaturian's excellent book on Turkish arms, where the description is disappointingly unspecific - "Daggers with Straight Blades and a White Bone Hilts".
Your dagger has cleaner lines and its hilt and scabbard do not have an elaborate docarion with corals, but in a way this makes it even more attractive. I believe I have seen others with a curved blade.
Regards,
Teodor

Atlantia · 12th July 2009, 08:53 PM

Hi Colin,
Well! Teodor's got it bang on the button there. Interesting variation!
You must have been gutted at having to buy them as well as your African items

Never bloody happens to me

Seriously though mate, you must be chuffed!
Wonder what the opinions on the blade will be?

Regards
Gene

Jeff Pringle · 13th July 2009, 11:55 AM

The walrus one is worth an etch, my magic wootz vision says "yes, perhaps"

graeme gt · 13th July 2009, 05:11 PM

Hi Colin , i see you managed to get knife all the way into scabbard what was the problem ?

12th July 2009, 08:34 PM	#1
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,716	Colin, I believe that the hilt of the top dagger is unmistakebly Ottoman, and is typically found on daggers that are described as being worn in the Ottoman court. I am attaching a scan from Astvatsaturian's excellent book on Turkish arms, where the description is disappointingly unspecific - "Daggers with Straight Blades and a White Bone Hilts". Your dagger has cleaner lines and its hilt and scabbard do not have an elaborate docarion with corals, but in a way this makes it even more attractive. I believe I have seen others with a curved blade. Regards, Teodor Attached Images

12th July 2009, 08:53 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Colin, Well! Teodor's got it bang on the button there. Interesting variation! You must have been gutted at having to buy them as well as your African items Never bloody happens to me Seriously though mate, you must be chuffed! Wonder what the opinions on the blade will be? Regards Gene

13th July 2009, 11:55 AM	#3
Jeff Pringle Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 189	The walrus one is worth an etch, my magic wootz vision says "yes, perhaps"

13th July 2009, 05:11 PM	#4
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Hi Colin , i see you managed to get knife all the way into scabbard what was the problem ?