TALISMANIC KERIS?

Sajen · 12th July 2009, 11:19 AM

I have two keris which you can call "talismanic patrem".
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10439
Here you can see the first.

sajen

BTW, very nice Banjarmasin keris you have there Michael!

Sajen · 12th July 2009, 11:47 AM

And this is the other one, the blade is 12,5 cm without peksi, the shape similar like the one from Ganjawulung.

sajen

ganjawulung · 12th July 2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

And this is the other one, the blade is 12,5 cm without peksi, the shape similar like the one from Ganjawulung.

sajen

Thanks a lot, Sajen, 'BROTHERHOOD' then...
Did you notice, that it is more like "the human's head" than naga's head? Please look at this picture...

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 12th July 2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Thanks a lot, Sajen, 'BROTHERHOOD' then...
Did you notice, that it is more like "the human's head" than naga's head? Please look at this picture...

GANJAWULUNG

Yes, it needs some phantasy to see a naga head inside, but think that it shall be a naga head. What's surprising that many from this jimat keris have the same naga head and also a very similar pamor. Look for example to the picture I take from this site:http://old.blades.free.fr/home.htm.

sajen

ganjawulung · 13th July 2009, 03:56 AM

Thanks, Sajen. I like this smaller size sajen too. And from the "smelling" of the blade, and from the former owner, I think that this palm-sized sajen (less than 22 cm) was once used to be a kind of amulet too...

GANJAWULUNG

Greybeard · 13th July 2009, 06:28 AM

Very interesting thread!

My smallest keris has a blade length of 17,5 cm (without peksi); 7 luk; very simple putut figure at the gandik; pamor ngulit semongko.

Unfortunately I still cannot provide photos ...

Heinz

sjors · 13th July 2009, 07:29 AM

I realy like these small keris. I hereby send a picture of two small keris of mine.
The "big" one has a blade length of 29 cm, the middle blade is 19 cm long and the smallest one has a blade lenght of 11 cm.

David · 13th July 2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Thanks, Sajen. I like this smaller size sajen too. And from the "smelling" of the blade, and from the former owner, I think that this palm-sized sajen (less than 22 cm) was once used to be a kind of amulet too...

GANJAWULUNG

I'm a little confused her Ganja. What other function would a keris sajen have other than a talismanic one? Isn't it already established that sajen are by their very nature talismanic?
BTW, i love the sheath on this little fellow.

VVV · 13th July 2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I'm a little confused her Ganja. What other function would a keris sajen have other than a talismanic one? Isn't it already established that sajen are by their very nature talismanic?
BTW, i love the sheath on this little fellow.

The main purpose of a keris sajen is AFAIK as a sacrifice, an offering (like the name says).

Michael

ganjawulung · 13th July 2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I'm a little confused her Ganja. What other function would a keris sajen have other than a talismanic one? Isn't it already established that sajen are by their very nature talismanic?
BTW, i love the sheath on this little fellow.

Yes, agree. Created as a talismanic. And for sure it was not made as a weapon... The sheath, IMHO not recent Maduran. Or could be Eastern Jawanese?

GANJAWULUNG

12th July 2009, 11:19 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	I have two keris which you can call "talismanic patrem". http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10439 Here you can see the first. sajen BTW, very nice Banjarmasin keris you have there Michael! Last edited by Sajen; 12th July 2009 at 05:25 PM.

12th July 2009, 11:47 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	And this is the other one, the blade is 12,5 cm without peksi, the shape similar like the one from Ganjawulung. sajen Attached Images

13th July 2009, 03:56 AM	#5
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Talismanic Sajen? Thanks, Sajen. I like this smaller size sajen too. And from the "smelling" of the blade, and from the former owner, I think that this palm-sized sajen (less than 22 cm) was once used to be a kind of amulet too... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

13th July 2009, 07:29 AM	#7
sjors Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 68	I realy like these small keris. I hereby send a picture of two small keris of mine. The "big" one has a blade length of 29 cm, the middle blade is 19 cm long and the smallest one has a blade lenght of 11 cm. Attached Images

13th July 2009, 06:28 AM	#6
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Very interesting thread! My smallest keris has a blade length of 17,5 cm (without peksi); 7 luk; very simple putut figure at the gandik; pamor ngulit semongko. Unfortunately I still cannot provide photos ... Heinz