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Old 2nd July 2009, 08:27 AM   #1
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Hello Mykeris

Thank you for providing the pictures. To me these appear to be Sengkelat (I see one lambe gajah only). But I may be wrong ...

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Old 3rd July 2009, 10:15 AM   #2
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An IMO extremely beautiful keris dapur Parungsari (type B) is pictured on the cover page of "Ensiklopedi Keris" by Bambang Harsrinuksmo ...
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Old 6th July 2009, 05:53 AM   #3
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Default How old are Sengkelat and Parungsari?

I would be very interested to know when the dapurs Sengkelat and Parungsari appeared first or when these dapurs were "invented".

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Old 7th July 2009, 03:52 AM   #4
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I would be very interested to know when the dapurs Sengkelat and Parungsari appeared first or when these dapurs were "invented".
A legend version was reported too in Groneman's book, Der Kris der Javaner. Quite details. He quoted source from "Pararaton" (old book on Singasari, during Ken Arok period and so on, translated from ancient javanese language by J Brandes), karaton Yogya manuscripts and also books on keris dapur from FL Winters (1871).

According to Groneman's version, keris Sangkelat was a keris commisioned by Sunan Lepen (I think, the complete name is Sunan Sekar Seda Lepen, a Sunan of Demak kingdom in the 16th century). Empu Supa who had made it (but of course, which Supa? So many Supa's name in keris).

Groneman also wrote, the Kyai Sangkelat keris once had been stolen to Blambangan -- in the extreme east of Jawa...

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Old 7th July 2009, 05:44 AM   #5
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Thank you, Ganjawulung. Very interesting!

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