A TRIBUTE to Pak Parman

ganjawulung · 30th June 2009, 03:29 PM

Dear Alan,
Beautiful pamor. Is it "sekar lampes" or "kenanga ginubah" pamor? And why did Pak Parman choose "wuwung" type of ganja (if I'm not mistaken), and not "mbathok mengkurep"?

Thanks alot,
GANJAWULUNG

mykeris · 30th June 2009, 06:52 PM

Thank you for sharing, Alan. Excellent!

A. G. Maisey · 1st July 2009, 12:30 AM

Pak Ganja, I thank you for your interest in the photos I have posted, but as these photographs are of my teacher's work, I cannot comment upon this work in any way at all, and I would very much appreciate it if you, yourself refrained from such comment.

This keris has not been posted here as material for discussion by you, or by anybody else.

I posted it in response to a politely expressed wish, and I consider commentary and discussion of this keris to be less than than good manners.

Thus, I most humbly request you to look at the photographs if you wish, but to keep your comments and questions to yourself. I am certain that you will respect my wishes in this matter.

ganjawulung · 1st July 2009, 02:08 AM

Dear Alan,
I apologize for my rude manner. I hope you understand, that it was just a matter of curiosity -- just spontaneous act but not proper. We must thank you, that you are willing to share with us the authentic work of Pak Parman, your teacher.

Once again, I apologize...

GANJAWULUNG

A. G. Maisey · 1st July 2009, 05:45 AM

Your apology is unnecessary Pak Ganja, but nontheless, greatly appreciated.

We sometimes jump into action without reflecting upon the result of that action. I have often been guilty of this, as I believe have we all.

I understand completely that you intended no disrespect, and that your questions were simply the result of impulsive curiosity.

mykeris · 1st July 2009, 06:08 AM

It is understood and clear. Thanks again, Alan. Your kindness is highly appreciated.

Montino Bourbon · 3rd July 2009, 09:53 PM

I so appreciate your posting both the article and the pictures. I have to say that I am in awe. To thank you is really not enough.

My Guru Ustad Ali Akbar Khan, considered the greatest Hindustani musician of the twentieth century, passed away two weeks ago, after teaching more than forty years in the USA. His father, Ustad Allauddin Khan, was his guru as well as being the guru of Ravi Shankar, Nikhil Bannerjee, and many other great musicians. I was at his bedside, along with a bunch of my guru-bhai's, when he passed away.

He had over ten thousand students; some came for a semester, some, like me, stayed for twelve years.

The link between guru and disciple is a wonderful, mystical, rewarding saga. It continues, sometimes surprisingly, after the guru leaves the body. I've received guidance in dreams that has radically changed my art.

I really appreciate the all-too-short article, and would love to hear more on your apprenticeship, if it would be suitable.

Frankly, just your presence on this site, along with so many other Guni's (Gun- knowledge) is a wonderful resource.

1st July 2009, 12:30 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Pak Ganja, I thank you for your interest in the photos I have posted, but as these photographs are of my teacher's work, I cannot comment upon this work in any way at all, and I would very much appreciate it if you, yourself refrained from such comment. This keris has not been posted here as material for discussion by you, or by anybody else. I posted it in response to a politely expressed wish, and I consider commentary and discussion of this keris to be less than than good manners. Thus, I most humbly request you to look at the photographs if you wish, but to keep your comments and questions to yourself. I am certain that you will respect my wishes in this matter. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 1st July 2009 at 01:09 AM.

3rd July 2009, 09:53 PM	#7
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	teachers... I so appreciate your posting both the article and the pictures. I have to say that I am in awe. To thank you is really not enough. My Guru Ustad Ali Akbar Khan, considered the greatest Hindustani musician of the twentieth century, passed away two weeks ago, after teaching more than forty years in the USA. His father, Ustad Allauddin Khan, was his guru as well as being the guru of Ravi Shankar, Nikhil Bannerjee, and many other great musicians. I was at his bedside, along with a bunch of my guru-bhai's, when he passed away. He had over ten thousand students; some came for a semester, some, like me, stayed for twelve years. The link between guru and disciple is a wonderful, mystical, rewarding saga. It continues, sometimes surprisingly, after the guru leaves the body. I've received guidance in dreams that has radically changed my art. I really appreciate the all-too-short article, and would love to hear more on your apprenticeship, if it would be suitable. Frankly, just your presence on this site, along with so many other Guni's (Gun- knowledge) is a wonderful resource.

30th June 2009, 03:29 PM	#1
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Dear Alan, Beautiful pamor. Is it "sekar lampes" or "kenanga ginubah" pamor? And why did Pak Parman choose "wuwung" type of ganja (if I'm not mistaken), and not "mbathok mengkurep"? Thanks alot, GANJAWULUNG

30th June 2009, 06:52 PM	#2
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Thank you for sharing, Alan. Excellent!

1st July 2009, 02:08 AM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Dear Alan, I apologize for my rude manner. I hope you understand, that it was just a matter of curiosity -- just spontaneous act but not proper. We must thank you, that you are willing to share with us the authentic work of Pak Parman, your teacher. Once again, I apologize... GANJAWULUNG

1st July 2009, 05:45 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Your apology is unnecessary Pak Ganja, but nontheless, greatly appreciated. We sometimes jump into action without reflecting upon the result of that action. I have often been guilty of this, as I believe have we all. I understand completely that you intended no disrespect, and that your questions were simply the result of impulsive curiosity.

1st July 2009, 06:08 AM	#6
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	It is understood and clear. Thanks again, Alan. Your kindness is highly appreciated.