jezail

Jim McDougall · 6th April 2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ward

yes wedding rifle but you are not pointing them at the groom. You will see 2 to 4 of these at afghan weddings that have lots of mop. I do not know why but it is a tradition

thanks ward

ward · 6th April 2009, 11:09 PM

yes I will get a pic up this week of the broomhandle. it is 30 caliber probaly 1920-1950. every piece is hand filed and finished. The parts are generally interchangable with the german made piece. I fired it once just to see if it worked. Back when I dealt in more modern weapons I saw ak's,1911 45's, enfields,etc handmade by the afghans,chinese,and vietcong done mostly by filework and local blacksmithing.

Atlantia · 7th April 2009, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ward

yes I will get a pic up this week of the broomhandle. it is 30 caliber probaly 1920-1950. every piece is hand filed and finished. The parts are generally interchangable with the german made piece. I fired it once just to see if it worked. Back when I dealt in more modern weapons I saw ak's,1911 45's, enfields,etc handmade by the afghans,chinese,and vietcong done mostly by filework and local blacksmithing.

Cheers Ward, I'd genuinely love to see it!

archer · 7th April 2009, 11:31 PM

Here's a lock I believe is of East India Company origins. It came from kabul in the early sixties. There is a 2 under the crown and the lock is stamped 1811, Unless the number is regimental. the Jezail shown is probably older. Just opened the link to Darra gunsmiths, good to see they are still busy making copies.

Steve

kahnjar1 · 8th April 2009, 06:36 AM

Re the locks on these TRIBAL GUNS..........where the East India mark is found, I would think it most unlikely that it is anything other than the original.
Why would one bother to fake the mark, as the weapon it is attached to is OBVIOUSLY not the original E.I.C item! Remember that E.I.C had armories in India which made guns , as well as those supplied from England. The marks of course would differ slightly in style and application depending on the armory from which they came.
In my humble opinion, ALL those locks are the real deal.

ward · 8th April 2009, 03:10 PM

good luck with that theory. Why would you copy a piece,maybe because you could not afford the original,it was unavailable because your neighbor did not like you having to many arms,maybe because the seller thought he could sell it for more,you live in a remote area and you do not have a local gun dealer from india,east india company or england,tradition

ward · 8th April 2009, 10:23 PM

Pakistan made broomhandle all done by file and handwork

7th April 2009, 11:31 PM	#4
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Another Lock Here's a lock I believe is of East India Company origins. It came from kabul in the early sixties. There is a 2 under the crown and the lock is stamped 1811, Unless the number is regimental. the Jezail shown is probably older. Just opened the link to Darra gunsmiths, good to see they are still busy making copies. Steve Attached Images Last edited by archer; 8th April 2009 at 12:19 AM.

8th April 2009, 10:23 PM	#7
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Pakistan made broomhandle all done by file and handwork Attached Images

6th April 2009, 11:09 PM	#2
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	yes I will get a pic up this week of the broomhandle. it is 30 caliber probaly 1920-1950. every piece is hand filed and finished. The parts are generally interchangable with the german made piece. I fired it once just to see if it worked. Back when I dealt in more modern weapons I saw ak's,1911 45's, enfields,etc handmade by the afghans,chinese,and vietcong done mostly by filework and local blacksmithing.

8th April 2009, 06:36 AM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,813	Re the locks on these TRIBAL GUNS..........where the East India mark is found, I would think it most unlikely that it is anything other than the original. Why would one bother to fake the mark, as the weapon it is attached to is OBVIOUSLY not the original E.I.C item! Remember that E.I.C had armories in India which made guns , as well as those supplied from England. The marks of course would differ slightly in style and application depending on the armory from which they came. In my humble opinion, ALL those locks are the real deal.

8th April 2009, 03:10 PM	#6
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	good luck with that theory. Why would you copy a piece,maybe because you could not afford the original,it was unavailable because your neighbor did not like you having to many arms,maybe because the seller thought he could sell it for more,you live in a remote area and you do not have a local gun dealer from india,east india company or england,tradition