War Shillelagh

RomaRana · 7th March 2009, 01:08 AM

When Martin Scorsese was converting Herbert Asbury’s non fiction book, The Gangs of New York, to a movie he liked the story of Monk Eastman so much that he simply co-opted much of the character and made him Irish to fit the story.

Also, if you read the book the weapons of choice seem to be brickbats and iron pipes rolled up in newspapers for concealment (Manhattan ethonographic weapon?). I guess it was hard to walk around with a club during any historical period in NYC.

Another side note, the character Bill the Butcher in the movie is the real deal. I have tracked him down at the NYC Municipal archives and in the NYPL Social Sciences Library. I even found an insurance map of his butcher shop in the Bowery.

graeme gt · 10th March 2009, 04:46 PM

This is very similar .

Queequeg · 11th March 2009, 01:33 AM

Graeme, that's a nice one!! Do you own it? Any chance of some more pictures, perhaps in hand?

graeme gt · 11th March 2009, 01:34 PM

Yes its mine will take some more snaps .

Queequeg · 11th March 2009, 05:54 PM

I'm looking forward to these photos. Where did you get it? Any history you can share with us?

graeme gt · 11th March 2009, 08:23 PM

No history im afraid got it from antique dealer who knows i collect clubs .

Tim Simmons · 11th March 2009, 08:45 PM

Very scary man, with a white van? please dont hurt me

Lew · 11th March 2009, 10:01 PM

graeme gt

I was getting a stiff neck so here you go.

Btw

Nice club

Lew

10th March 2009, 04:46 PM	#2
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	This is very similar . Attached Images

11th March 2009, 08:23 PM	#6
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	No history im afraid got it from antique dealer who knows i collect clubs . Attached Images

11th March 2009, 10:01 PM	#8
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	graeme gt I was getting a stiff neck so here you go. Btw Nice club Lew Attached Images

7th March 2009, 01:08 AM	#1
RomaRana Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 58	When Martin Scorsese was converting Herbert Asbury’s non fiction book, The Gangs of New York, to a movie he liked the story of Monk Eastman so much that he simply co-opted much of the character and made him Irish to fit the story. Also, if you read the book the weapons of choice seem to be brickbats and iron pipes rolled up in newspapers for concealment (Manhattan ethonographic weapon?). I guess it was hard to walk around with a club during any historical period in NYC. Another side note, the character Bill the Butcher in the movie is the real deal. I have tracked him down at the NYC Municipal archives and in the NYPL Social Sciences Library. I even found an insurance map of his butcher shop in the Bowery.

11th March 2009, 01:33 AM	#3
Queequeg Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Detroit (New Mayapan) Posts: 96	Graeme, that's a nice one!! Do you own it? Any chance of some more pictures, perhaps in hand?

11th March 2009, 01:34 PM	#4
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Yes its mine will take some more snaps .

11th March 2009, 05:54 PM	#5
Queequeg Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Detroit (New Mayapan) Posts: 96	I'm looking forward to these photos. Where did you get it? Any history you can share with us?

11th March 2009, 08:45 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Very scary man, with a white van? please dont hurt me