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19th February 2009, 07:17 PM
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The Russuan! or Magyar attributions is based on?
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19th February 2009, 08:41 PM
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Definitely East European influence, anyway, TVV.
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19th February 2009, 09:35 PM
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Regards, Teodor |
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19th February 2009, 10:35 PM
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looks familiar.
 mines not been excavated tho  (9c magyar sabre repro)
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19th February 2009, 11:27 PM
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Ah, a repro.....or are you hiding the fact you have access to a 'time machine'.....  Regards David |
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19th February 2009, 11:38 PM
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ssshhh!
my tardis is double parked and i don't want anyone looking for it, them time clampers are murder.
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20th February 2009, 06:49 PM
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 ......'time cops' are just as bad.....caught 'timing'.......874 years an hour...  Had gone back for the sword belonging to Spartacus.....when I arrived I confronted Sparticas's army and cried 'which one of you is Spartacus ?' .....a chorus of hundreds of voices said 'I am' ....never did get the sword I am beginning to think a number of Chinese sword sellers have time machines.....judging by the way their antiques look quite new ....perhaps they haven't realised that carrying old swords through the space/time continuum does not age them All the best David |
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19th February 2009, 11:40 PM
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Kronck, to me the blades appear different. The blade on your nice replica seems to be a little more curved and shorter, and the blade on the auction sword to me seems longer and pretty much straight. If so, it could be earlier than what it is dated, and I have seen such blades attributed to the Avars and Bulgars, prior to the Magyar arrival. I guess the Khazars used them as well.
Also, I see the little brass habachi-like element at the ricasso, the function of which I remember was subject to some debate. Or it is possible that I am not seeing it correctly - it happens to everyone. Regards, Teodor |
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20th February 2009, 04:30 PM
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Such sabers have been found in excavations in Hungary by certain amounts and can be seen in museums, like the pair in the following photo (taken at the Hussar museum, Eger). However, the habaki-like part shows a connection, if by influence only, to Chinese sabers and should be researched.
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21st February 2009, 01:30 AM
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 . oddly enough, mine varies from straight also by 5/8 in. in the centre of the blade. it's definitely magyar tho. (the smith is a magyar ) just made a bit later than the one in post #1. no sweated on edge thingy tho.looks a bit longer in this photo:  it's all in the angles. p.s. - the thumb ring for me at least is more comfortable with the finger behind the sword guard rather than in front. shown here on a 15c magyar sabre repro, it's even more uncomfortable on the 9c one with it's thicker bronze guard.  
Last edited by kronckew; 21st February 2009 at 02:18 AM. |
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