Semarang, the parang from Halmahera

Sajen · 28th January 2009, 07:00 PM

Thank you Arjan for reply,
I've also seen a similar shield in a book but can't remember in which one.
Regards,
Detlef

Maurice · 22nd October 2012, 11:32 AM

Because of the "ridges" in front of the shield from top to bottom (over the length of the shield) I would say it's made in regions were the Salawaku's were made, as they also had these kind of "ridges" sometimes (if that's the good word for it).... but this is my personal oppinion, and I have no proof for it.

But it's hard to determine the origin, as the shield on the image below was collected in 1857 at the "Tomori bay expedition" in Celebes (which looks a lot like the shield Arjan posted, but it isn't the same as it's decorated a bit different....).
According to Juynboll book part XIX, "Celebes" (1927), there still were a few of these shields in Limbotto and in the Minahassa, and were they still used in feastly parades and mirrorfights by the best warriors.

It's a bit like the copper helmets (taoboetaoes), which were found in Celebes, Moluccans and also the Philippines...
Salawaku's were also found in the north part of Celebes, as in the Molucan islands.
And also the pade like parangs were found on Celebes and around the Moluccan islands....

Limbotto

Battara · 22nd October 2012, 10:57 PM

The shield above looks like it is metal covered and repoussed. Is this the case?

Maurice · 22nd October 2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

The shield above looks like it is metal covered and repoussed. Is this the case?

Yes it consists of wood and copper according the museumdatabase.
Look at the (bad) picture which gives you an indication of how it looks like in real.

Battara · 23rd October 2012, 01:41 AM

Thank you Maurice. I guess this is a very rare form of this shield, right?

Maurice · 23rd October 2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Thank you Maurice. I guess this is a very rare form of this shield, right?

I've never seen one in real........

Maurice · 23rd October 2012, 08:24 AM

Jose, here's another one (a better picture) in the "Volkenkundig museum Leiden" collection....

22nd October 2012, 11:32 AM	#2
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,456	Because of the "ridges" in front of the shield from top to bottom (over the length of the shield) I would say it's made in regions were the Salawaku's were made, as they also had these kind of "ridges" sometimes (if that's the good word for it).... but this is my personal oppinion, and I have no proof for it. But it's hard to determine the origin, as the shield on the image below was collected in 1857 at the "Tomori bay expedition" in Celebes (which looks a lot like the shield Arjan posted, but it isn't the same as it's decorated a bit different....). According to Juynboll book part XIX, "Celebes" (1927), there still were a few of these shields in Limbotto and in the Minahassa, and were they still used in feastly parades and mirrorfights by the best warriors. It's a bit like the copper helmets (taoboetaoes), which were found in Celebes, Moluccans and also the Philippines... Salawaku's were also found in the north part of Celebes, as in the Molucan islands. And also the pade like parangs were found on Celebes and around the Moluccan islands.... Limbotto Attached Images

23rd October 2012, 08:24 AM	#7
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,456	Jose, here's another one (a better picture) in the "Volkenkundig museum Leiden" collection.... Attached Images

28th January 2009, 07:00 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,272	Thank you Arjan for reply, I've also seen a similar shield in a book but can't remember in which one. Regards, Detlef

22nd October 2012, 10:57 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	The shield above looks like it is metal covered and repoussed. Is this the case?

23rd October 2012, 01:41 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Thank you Maurice. I guess this is a very rare form of this shield, right?