Keris 1

Marcokeris · 25th January 2009, 10:58 PM

from Majapahit a white stone with another not so far subject

scratch · 26th January 2009, 10:33 AM

Is it a Buta, Bute Kale relative?

Gavin Nugent · 26th January 2009, 11:05 PM

Nice one Scratch.

I do recall a conversation about this nasty looking little man and his role in the Bali "mythos" so to speak.
A young friend has arrived from Bali to stay for seven months, I am uncertain if he would know but I beleive his father would know considering the families position in Bali.
If you don't mind I'd like to save the pictures and show him when he visits shortly.

Gav

Sajen · 27th January 2009, 01:12 AM

Hello Daniel,
I only know that Rare Kumara is a brother from Ganesha.
Regards,
Detlef

scratch · 28th January 2009, 08:16 AM

Thanks Freebooter

No problems! I look forward to any information.
Hello Sajen

Thanks for sharing the Rare Kumara Reference,Sorry I do not have a book by Kerner. I have tried to find a reference photo of this character with no success.Is he shown in the photo by Marcokeris?, Thanks.
Would he also be known as Kama?
To me this hilt looks to be of a demonic aspect rather than a deity

The bared lips, fangs, oversized clawed hand, flared eyebrows and eyes.
Pg 115 of "Kris Gli Invincibli" 1st print Has a figure with similiar eyes, eyebrows and posture. Although adult in appearance.
If possible,How many types of metal would have been used in this blade? 3 or more?
Thanking you for the discussion. If photo from book needs to be removed due to copyright I hope Moderaters will do so. I am unclear.

Cheers,

Dan

Gavin Nugent · 28th January 2009, 10:42 AM

It may be a little help and I don't claim to be certain of this but I understand even the good guys have fangs and such so it can appear a little misleading to us all from other cultures...

Gav

Sajen · 28th January 2009, 11:01 PM

Hello Daniel,
I think that I will find the time at weekend to take a photo from the page of Kerner's book, there are some very similar hilts and descriped as Rare Kumara. I am not very familar with the hindu mythologie and can't answer your question if there also other writings of this name. I own a hilt from a betel crusher with the same figure and will take also a photo from.
Best regards,
Detlef

25th January 2009, 10:58 PM	#1
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	from Majapahit a white stone with another not so far subject Attached Images

26th January 2009, 10:33 AM	#2
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Is it a Buta, Bute Kale relative? Attached Images

26th January 2009, 11:05 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Nice on scratch Nice one Scratch. I do recall a conversation about this nasty looking little man and his role in the Bali "mythos" so to speak. A young friend has arrived from Bali to stay for seven months, I am uncertain if he would know but I beleive his father would know considering the families position in Bali. If you don't mind I'd like to save the pictures and show him when he visits shortly. Gav

28th January 2009, 08:16 AM	#5
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Thanks Freebooter No problems! I look forward to any information. Hello Sajen Thanks for sharing the Rare Kumara Reference,Sorry I do not have a book by Kerner. I have tried to find a reference photo of this character with no success.Is he shown in the photo by Marcokeris?, Thanks. Would he also be known as Kama? To me this hilt looks to be of a demonic aspect rather than a deity The bared lips, fangs, oversized clawed hand, flared eyebrows and eyes. Pg 115 of "Kris Gli Invincibli" 1st print Has a figure with similiar eyes, eyebrows and posture. Although adult in appearance. If possible,How many types of metal would have been used in this blade? 3 or more? Thanking you for the discussion. If photo from book needs to be removed due to copyright I hope Moderaters will do so. I am unclear. Cheers, Dan Attached Images

28th January 2009, 10:42 AM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Maybe a little help It may be a little help and I don't claim to be certain of this but I understand even the good guys have fangs and such so it can appear a little misleading to us all from other cultures... Gav

27th January 2009, 01:12 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Daniel, I only know that Rare Kumara is a brother from Ganesha. Regards, Detlef

28th January 2009, 11:01 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Daniel, I think that I will find the time at weekend to take a photo from the page of Kerner's book, there are some very similar hilts and descriped as Rare Kumara. I am not very familar with the hindu mythologie and can't answer your question if there also other writings of this name. I own a hilt from a betel crusher with the same figure and will take also a photo from. Best regards, Detlef