Borneo Piso

Maurice · 17th January 2009, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Tjikeroeh Java blade? Would that mean this is not from British North Borneo?

Hi Tim, it doesn,t smell like Borneo to me....

Maybe a composition made in Java??

(just a guess).

Maybe Willem or Ben can step in.

Maurice

VVV · 18th January 2009, 04:46 PM

I suspect that this is a later, "creative" composition, probably from Kuching, Sarawak.

Michael

Tim Simmons · 18th January 2009, 06:24 PM

Oh dear I am sorry to hear this. I swapped some nice African things for this. The scabbard is silver. The antler handle does appear to be as old as my other mandau. The hilt and blade have been together some time. There are only small bits of gunge left on the hilt. As the tears flow, it came from a good source.

Tim Simmons · 18th January 2009, 06:50 PM

Is it possible that it is a form of "Niabor"? as shown in this link only with a more Eruopean inspired blade that might even be imported from other regions?
http://old.blades.free.fr/swords/day...ayak_intro.htm

Tim Simmons · 18th January 2009, 06:55 PM

And here much more curved.
http://webprojects.prm.ox.ac.uk/arms...ers/1924.68.1/

VVV · 18th January 2009, 07:18 PM

I am sorry Tim.
Maybe I shouldn't have commented it?
But as you have so many great blades, like your other mandau, I thought you weren't that sensitive about it by now.
Unfortunately this is part of collecting and it happens to all of us now and then...

Michael

Tim Simmons · 18th January 2009, 07:23 PM

No we need the truth as far as we currently undrestand it to be. I am just a bit xxxxxx off that I gave some good bits for it. Knowing the source I still have a little hope.

18th January 2009, 04:46 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I suspect that this is a later, "creative" composition, probably from Kuching, Sarawak. Michael

18th January 2009, 06:24 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,895	Oh dear I am sorry to hear this. I swapped some nice African things for this. The scabbard is silver. The antler handle does appear to be as old as my other mandau. The hilt and blade have been together some time. There are only small bits of gunge left on the hilt. As the tears flow, it came from a good source.

18th January 2009, 06:50 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,895	Is it possible that it is a form of "Niabor"? as shown in this link only with a more Eruopean inspired blade that might even be imported from other regions? http://old.blades.free.fr/swords/day...ayak_intro.htm

18th January 2009, 06:55 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,895	And here much more curved. http://webprojects.prm.ox.ac.uk/arms...ers/1924.68.1/

18th January 2009, 07:18 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I am sorry Tim. Maybe I shouldn't have commented it? But as you have so many great blades, like your other mandau, I thought you weren't that sensitive about it by now. Unfortunately this is part of collecting and it happens to all of us now and then... Michael

18th January 2009, 07:23 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,895	No we need the truth as far as we currently undrestand it to be. I am just a bit xxxxxx off that I gave some good bits for it. Knowing the source I still have a little hope.