Seadajak Parang with rare scabbard

[asomotif]

It does have an heavy blade and little heads on the handle .

I am a bit puzzled with the hilt

The handle on Ben's 2nd parang is puzzling too. (with the little heads)
I have seen nothing like it before.

Where is it from Ben ?

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by asomotif

The handle on Ben's 2nd parang is puzzling too. (with the little heads)
I have seen nothing like it before.

Where is it from Ben ?

Hi Willem this is very old Iban style I have seen it but can't remember where
the picture is .

As soon as I found it I will let it know .

But I have an new one coming up also with heads .

Ben

[David]

Well, this isn't the first time you all have seen "human" faces on a Dayak hilt. but you may not have noticed them.
I presented this mandau some time back. There is a face kind of hidden on the top and these half hidden faces (circled) near each side of the "snout" of the hilt.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=mandau

[Dajak]

Thanks David for bringing up this But I did see also one that has same style
as the one I have it has a few faces on the handle in same style .


The one you looks like an old one but not an Iban style one .

But the handle you have is an nice old one .

Ben

[asomotif]

very old Iban style I have seen it but can't remember where
the picture is .

Ben, I found the picture.
Not of the handle, but a picture of the blade and scabbard with another handle...
I really wonder where the handle is from.
Is the handle Iban ?
Is the blade Iban ?
Are they both Iban and... when where they joined together ?
Do the metal bands on the scabbard make it Iban ?
And if so, why where they only recently added ?
Is the shell any indication ?
or just recently added. etc ect

Considering this iban parang was assembled as a composite in the 21st century, is it worth considering the origin / style or age when it is in fact no longer an original combination of blade and handle at all.

A Puzzling Iban parang indeed.

But I have an new one coming up

maybe better to bring up your next one

[Dajak]

Yes Willem they look the same very much this I get from an collector that I am sure he does not buy at oriental arms .

It must be (if they are the same) before he get it he has it several years at his wall that I now off.

It is coming from an collector from Rotterdam .

Metal bands does not look like an replace.

I like to see an close pic off the carving to be sure if it is the same .




Ben

[asomotif]

Hello Ben,

close pic off the carving

Close up pics are in the archive at Oriental arms website.
You can check, it is 100% sure same blade / same scabbard.
They are pretty far back, in 2003 somewhere just before I bought the following mandau from you via ebay.
Notice the hilt ?

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by David

Well, this isn't the first time you all have seen "human" faces on a Dayak hilt. but you may not have noticed them.
I presented this mandau some time back. There is a face kind of hidden on the top and these half hidden faces (circled) near each side of the "snout" of the hilt.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=mandau

Hi David,

Thanks for posting, but I was just trying to forget it....

regards,

Arjan

[David]

Originally Posted by mandaukudi

Hi David,

Thanks for posting, but I was just trying to forget it....

regards,

Arjan

Sorry...

[asomotif]

Nice to see that somebody take the hilt off put an very nice one on it (that I did not see that it belong together it fits perfect even the metal bands)

Ben, put some detail pictures on the forum showing how the blade is fixed to the handle and also details of the metal bands.

Than I or other forumites can try to educate you, because it really surprises me that you did not notice this.

Ps. And what an amazing coincidence that the wooden (not spectacular hilt) that was on this parang when it was for sale at Artzi's, ended up on a mandau that I bought from you only a few months later. such a small world.

you really should be more carefull what you buy.
(And where you post the pictures )

[Dajak]

Ps. And what an amazing coincidence that the wooden (not spectacular hilt) that was on this parang when it was for sale at Artzi's, ended up on a mandau that I bought from you only a few months later. such a small world.

Willem If I where you I would more be carefull saying things with no proof
like above and you did with the rentjong .
You suggesting here something that I don't like.
You even can't remeber how much time I visit you that is telling me enough.

Here are an pic off an metal band

Ben