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Old 4th January 2009, 06:47 AM   #1
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Hi Arjan can you also show us what type off blade it is ?

that one down below is that also an seadajak parang ???

Thanks Ben
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Old 4th January 2009, 01:53 PM   #2
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Hi Arjan can you also show us what type off blade it is ?

that one down below is that also an seadajak parang ???

Thanks Ben
Hi Ben,

No In my opinion the lower is a Dusun mandau from Kinabatingan area.


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Old 4th January 2009, 03:01 PM   #3
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Although this is not as curved and I know little about these really. I can see some similarities to the blade and the scabbard. Any more information would be very nice to know. This is my a favourite.
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Old 4th January 2009, 06:01 PM   #4
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Hi Ben,

No In my opinion the lower is a Dusun mandau from Kinabatingan area.


Arjan.
Nice blade that lower one I did ask because I see same style scabbard but with an
LT style blade in the scabbard after I left your nice shop .

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Old 6th January 2009, 11:17 PM   #5
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Arjan, I am a bit puzzled with the hilt on the middle one?
Please let me know why it's Iban?
Is the lower one a Parang Gayang?

Tim, yours is nice too but I think you should post it in a separate thread as it's not related to the ones discussed in this thread. It's to confusing otherwise to comment it in relation to the other ones.

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Old 7th January 2009, 08:46 AM   #6
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Micheal I do not mean to confuse anybody, I am a bit confused that might be why I post it here. I like many others probably just see mandau. I just noted some similarity in the scabbard colour and binding also the blade. You guys seem to have all the answers?
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Old 8th January 2009, 02:00 PM   #7
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It does have an heavy blade and little heads on the handle .
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I am a bit puzzled with the hilt
The handle on Ben's 2nd parang is puzzling too. (with the little heads)
I have seen nothing like it before.

Where is it from Ben ?
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Old 8th January 2009, 05:09 PM   #8
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The handle on Ben's 2nd parang is puzzling too. (with the little heads)
I have seen nothing like it before.

Where is it from Ben ?
Hi Willem this is very old Iban style I have seen it but can't remember where
the picture is .

As soon as I found it I will let it know .

But I have an new one coming up also with heads .

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Old 7th February 2009, 10:30 PM   #9
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Silver Nickel
Pakfung
Paktong
Alpaca
German Silver
Berlin Silver
White Metal

Different names for the same alloy. I am an ignorant on this kind of weapons, and this reference to the use of german silver on them is an interesting point. I wonder if this was a common feature on their craft, and since when. This can be useful in dating an item, as it is on the case of the khukris.
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Old 8th February 2009, 08:18 AM   #10
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Willem, it looks like that coin and size is roughly the same.
Gonzalo, that kind of alloy as on Ben's handle isn't "standard" on these parang.

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Old 8th January 2009, 02:07 PM   #11
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Arjan, I am a bit puzzled with the hilt on the middle one?
Please let me know why it's Iban?
Is the lower one a Parang Gayang?

Tim, yours is nice too but I think you should post it in a separate thread as it's not related to the ones discussed in this thread. It's to confusing otherwise to comment it in relation to the other ones.

Michael
Hi Michael,

The hilt is puzzling me too , I have the idea that this piece is from the north of Borneo below the Murut area but I have no proof.

The lower one is what I call a mandau from the Dusun tribe.

regards,

Arjan.
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Old 10th January 2009, 08:18 AM   #12
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Hi Michael,

The hilt is puzzling me too , I have the idea that this piece is from the north of Borneo below the Murut area but I have no proof.

The lower one is what I call a mandau from the Dusun tribe.

regards,

Arjan.
Arjan,

Has the "mandau from the Dusun tribe" a flat blade with the same decorations on both sides?

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Old 10th January 2009, 12:02 PM   #13
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Arjan,

Has the "mandau from the Dusun tribe" a flat blade with the same decorations on both sides?

Michael
Hi Michael,

No it isn't flat, its holow like a mandau should be.

here some pics

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