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Old 1st January 2009, 08:10 PM   #1
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Well if not alloyed with silver. It is most likey a tin solder wire. Or possibly Britannia metal which is not that far removed from tin solder.

Is that the same as berlin silver


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Is that the same as berlin silver
Do you mean German Silver?
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Old 2nd January 2009, 05:31 AM   #3
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Hi Jose yes I mean German silver overhere in Netherlands/Germany they call it Berlin silver.

I think the English call it alpacca but not sure .


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Old 2nd January 2009, 09:23 AM   #4
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Hi Ben,

There are two styles of pandat but they are Sidin and Bennah according to Shelford (see examples in order).
The ones with the resembling scabbard end as your parang are Sidin.
So I assume that you suspect that it's the Sidin version that somehow is connected to Iban?

On jimpul variations I consider the following two jimpul too even if they don't have the squarish end of the blade.

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English call it alpacca but not sure
Found the following :
Alpaca / Berlin silver :
copper: 64 à 65 %
zinc: 23 à 24%
nickel: 12%

But I can imagine if it is locally made any combination of materials could be used.

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Old 3rd January 2009, 07:37 AM   #6
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My second Seadajak parang did get it yesterday.

It does have an heavy blade and little heads on the handle .

And very long hair from the handle .

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Old 3rd January 2009, 12:24 PM   #7
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Hi Ben,


Nice example....
I have not often seen these kind of little faces on the handles. Also the carvings on the scabbard I do like.
Are those metal bands on the scabbard?

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