A warrior's keris

nechesh · 11th December 2004, 05:50 PM

Hi Blu. Just curious, if Adni stained this blade for you, why did you remove it. Jet black with just the wengkon line sounds like a really cool look to me.

And it would be, after all, the proper traditional look for the blade, wouldn't it?

BluErf · 12th December 2004, 01:42 AM

Actually, I got it from Adni like this. When etched, the wengkon was somewhat less visible than when it was unetched, so the warangan was removed for the 3rd time and left like that. Its fine by me -- the grey steely look.

rasdan · 13th December 2004, 07:24 AM

Hi Blu,

I think u r right. Initially i thought theres some pulo tirto on the blade. I think blades of this type are more difficult to etch due to the nature of the pamor. Sometimes to me its kinda sweet to leave the blade unetched. It facilitates the examination of the steel fibre and i enjoy that. However there are times that i got bored by the look of the blade and starting to etch it what so ever.

Heres some pictures as promised.

nechesh · 13th December 2004, 11:35 AM

It seems interesting that the wengkon would be LESS visible after a staining. I wonder if it is not possible that what has been thought to be pamor wengkon is not really the weld joint between the blade's outer skin and the steel core. This has been suggested to me by a learned associate and it seems a strong possiblility.

CharlesS · 13th December 2004, 02:54 PM

...but I agree; I do not think that the ivory is fossilized, though lovely nonetheless!

rasdan · 14th December 2004, 01:43 AM

Hi guys,

Well, i'm no good in staining, but i think to get the pamor up nicely with the correct look is just soooo damn hard. Sometimes it seems that the blade just wont cooperate. Too dark... too light... phew. Theres gonna be a lot of "D'oh!!" before we can get it right.

BluErf · 14th December 2004, 03:45 PM

I think it is possible that the pamor is not really a pamor wengkon. Rather, the smith was just concentrating on forging a rough-and-tough sanmai keris blade.

But I also agree with Rasdan that sometimes, these blades just don't 'co-operate'.

13th December 2004, 02:54 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	A real Bugis beauty! ...but I agree; I do not think that the ivory is fossilized, though lovely nonetheless!

11th December 2004, 05:50 PM	#1
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Hi Blu. Just curious, if Adni stained this blade for you, why did you remove it. Jet black with just the wengkon line sounds like a really cool look to me. And it would be, after all, the proper traditional look for the blade, wouldn't it?

12th December 2004, 01:42 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Actually, I got it from Adni like this. When etched, the wengkon was somewhat less visible than when it was unetched, so the warangan was removed for the 3rd time and left like that. Its fine by me -- the grey steely look.

13th December 2004, 07:24 AM	#3
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Hi Blu, I think u r right. Initially i thought theres some pulo tirto on the blade. I think blades of this type are more difficult to etch due to the nature of the pamor. Sometimes to me its kinda sweet to leave the blade unetched. It facilitates the examination of the steel fibre and i enjoy that. However there are times that i got bored by the look of the blade and starting to etch it what so ever. Heres some pictures as promised.

13th December 2004, 11:35 AM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	It seems interesting that the wengkon would be LESS visible after a staining. I wonder if it is not possible that what has been thought to be pamor wengkon is not really the weld joint between the blade's outer skin and the steel core. This has been suggested to me by a learned associate and it seems a strong possiblility.

14th December 2004, 01:43 AM	#6
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Hi guys, Well, i'm no good in staining, but i think to get the pamor up nicely with the correct look is just soooo damn hard. Sometimes it seems that the blade just wont cooperate. Too dark... too light... phew. Theres gonna be a lot of "D'oh!!" before we can get it right.

14th December 2004, 03:45 PM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	I think it is possible that the pamor is not really a pamor wengkon. Rather, the smith was just concentrating on forging a rough-and-tough sanmai keris blade. But I also agree with Rasdan that sometimes, these blades just don't 'co-operate'.