WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? PROOF/CONTROL MARKS

celtan · 6th November 2008, 12:35 AM

Hi Stu,
What do you know about this one?

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY JIM TO START A THREAD ABOUT PROOF/CONTROL MARKS FOUND ON GUNS AND OTHER WEAPONS. I HAVE A REASONABLY EXTENSIVE LIBRARY, AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY TO IDENTIFY ANY MARKS WHICH MEMBERS HAVE FOUND ON OLD WEAPONS. PLEASE POST YOUR REQUESTS ON THE FORUM AND I WILL TRY TO PROVIDE ANSWERS IF I CAN. BE PATIENT AS RESEARCH CAN TAKE TIME!
MEANWHILE TO GET THE BALL ROLLING I HAVE POSTED HERE THE CITY CONTROL MARKS FROM SUHL AND ALSO EARLY SWEDISH MARKS.
INFORMATION SOURCE "ONE HUNDRED GREAT GUNS" BY MERRILL LINDSAY.

kahnjar1 · 6th November 2008, 02:25 AM

Looks to be a proof mark of a blade maker. Is this on a sword or a gun? A clearer pic would help showing the total stamping and surrounding decoration. Also any other information of the item.
Regards Stu

celtan · 6th November 2008, 08:45 AM

Ooops, my apologies. It's a 19th C. blade's ricasso mark. I'm having troubles taking good macro pictures of objects so small. I'll try to take another one.
Best

Manuel

kahnjar1 · 6th November 2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celtan

Ooops, my apologies. It's a 19th C. blade's ricasso mark. I'm having troubles taking good macro pictures of objects so small. I'll try to take another one.
Best

Manuel

Hi Manuel,
What does the WHOLE item look like as that COULD probably give some clue as to origins. What sort of sword is it??
Regards Stuart

celtan · 6th November 2008, 06:10 PM

Regular 19th sword, see another pis of hilt...

kahnjar1 · 7th November 2008, 02:01 AM

Sorry Manuel,
You will have to post clearer and more informative pics. Looks to be a cypher on the hilt but you don't show it. What does the rest of the blade look like? Are there any other markings or inscriptions which might give a clue as to origins?
In reply to your first question----what you show is a proof stamp on a sword. Other than that I can not tell anything further from what you have supplied.
Regards Stuart

celtan · 7th November 2008, 02:33 AM

Hi Stu, I still don't own the sword. I must return to the owner's and get more pics.

I was thinking that perhaps it meant Austrian Republic , but it couldn't be. In German it would be Republik Von Ostereich, not Of.

BTW, is there in the forum anyone that can read cyrillic?

Best

Manuel

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Sorry Manuel,
You will have to post clearer and more informative pics. Looks to be a cypher on the hilt but you don't show it. What does the rest of the blade look like? Are there any other markings or inscriptions which might give a clue as to origins?
In reply to your first question----what you show is a proof stamp on a sword. Other than that I can not tell anything further from what you have supplied.
Regards Stuart

6th November 2008, 06:10 PM	#5
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Regular 19th sword, see another pis of hilt... Attached Images

6th November 2008, 02:25 AM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,802	Looks to be a proof mark of a blade maker. Is this on a sword or a gun? A clearer pic would help showing the total stamping and surrounding decoration. Also any other information of the item. Regards Stu

6th November 2008, 08:45 AM	#3
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Ooops, my apologies. It's a 19th C. blade's ricasso mark. I'm having troubles taking good macro pictures of objects so small. I'll try to take another one. Best Manuel

7th November 2008, 02:01 AM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,802	Sorry Manuel, You will have to post clearer and more informative pics. Looks to be a cypher on the hilt but you don't show it. What does the rest of the blade look like? Are there any other markings or inscriptions which might give a clue as to origins? In reply to your first question----what you show is a proof stamp on a sword. Other than that I can not tell anything further from what you have supplied. Regards Stuart