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fernando · 29th September 2008, 12:15 AM

Hi Norman,
Can i add here two more ( genuine) examples for your perusal?
The first one has four articulated blades. This is such one used during the British civil war, having been largely imported from the Nederlands, to equip the Royal troops.
The second example was a variation used by Harquebusiers and Light cavalry afected to the Parliament, headed by Cromwell, during English Republican revolution (1643-1660). Most probably a specimen produced in London by the couple Rafe Boulter and Silvester Keene, whom worked together until 1649. In this case the lobster tail is fix, showing five false blades. There is a 'porte plumes' on the bowl back. The perspective of this model gives us a clear idea why Cromwell troops were known as roundheads ... a term already quoted above.
(Text and pictures from 'As Armas e os Barões' by Eduardo Nobre).
I hope these examples are of minimum interest.
Fernando

Norman McCormick · 1st November 2008, 07:38 PM

Hi Fernando,
First of all please accept my apologies for not acknowledging your post sooner, I've been a bit indisposed for a while. These examples are indeed of interest and it has amazed me while investigating this helmet just how much variation there is in these Lobstertail/Roundhead helmets.
My Regards,
Norman.

fernando · 1st November 2008, 07:54 PM

Allways at your disposal, Norman

Fernando

Norman McCormick · 1st November 2008, 07:58 PM

Fernando, My Thanks, Norman.

Ed · 1st November 2008, 10:34 PM

If you put it on your head to you get the impression that it would "work"?

In the final analysis, if a piece does not fit/protect/provide comfort it is probably bad.

Norman McCormick · 2nd November 2008, 12:31 PM

Hi Ed,
Using an arming cap or a padded liner and it would work just fine so I suppose there is a reasonable chance that it was made for use and not display.
Regards,
Norman.

29th September 2008, 12:15 AM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	These were 'Capelinas' of the lobster tail type Hi Norman, Can i add here two more ( genuine) examples for your perusal? The first one has four articulated blades. This is such one used during the British civil war, having been largely imported from the Nederlands, to equip the Royal troops. The second example was a variation used by Harquebusiers and Light cavalry afected to the Parliament, headed by Cromwell, during English Republican revolution (1643-1660). Most probably a specimen produced in London by the couple Rafe Boulter and Silvester Keene, whom worked together until 1649. In this case the lobster tail is fix, showing five false blades. There is a 'porte plumes' on the bowl back. The perspective of this model gives us a clear idea why Cromwell troops were known as roundheads ... a term already quoted above. (Text and pictures from 'As Armas e os Barões' by Eduardo Nobre). I hope these examples are of minimum interest. Fernando Attached Images

1st November 2008, 07:38 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Fernando, First of all please accept my apologies for not acknowledging your post sooner, I've been a bit indisposed for a while. These examples are indeed of interest and it has amazed me while investigating this helmet just how much variation there is in these Lobstertail/Roundhead helmets. My Regards, Norman.

1st November 2008, 07:54 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Allways at your disposal, Norman Fernando

1st November 2008, 07:58 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Fernando, My Thanks, Norman.

1st November 2008, 10:34 PM	#5
Ed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 256	If you put it on your head to you get the impression that it would "work"? In the final analysis, if a piece does not fit/protect/provide comfort it is probably bad.

2nd November 2008, 12:31 PM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Ed, Using an arming cap or a padded liner and it would work just fine so I suppose there is a reasonable chance that it was made for use and not display. Regards, Norman.