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Old 27th September 2008, 11:09 AM   #1
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Hi Chris,

No signs of edge on edge contact but it is my belief that this shouldn't happen at all in one on one contacts, more the flat or spine should be used. There is one very small forging flaw near the end of the fullers that has been lovingly repaired and a general all over wear that is consistant with day to day handling.
Again, a real treat to play with.

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Old 27th September 2008, 04:06 PM   #2
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No signs of edge on edge contact but it is my belief that this shouldn't happen at all in one on one contacts, more the flat or spine should be used..

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Hi Gavin,

Ah.... If only things in life went according to our plans....

All the same I envy your magnificent swords. These don''t come up for sale all that often.

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Old 27th September 2008, 08:01 PM   #3
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No signs of edge on edge contact but it is my belief that this shouldn't happen at all in one on one contacts, more the flat or spine should be used.
Oh, boy. That's quite a Pandora's Box you're opening there, Gav. On certain boards, those are fighting words...
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Old 28th September 2008, 01:00 AM   #4
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Hehe, I am a jester and I am always willing to push the boundries Andrew, have a look in side, let's see what happens if I move the lid a little I do love to play.

Now I could understand nics and chips in the melee associated with large numbers coming face to face with large numbers or cavalry swords beating down on infantry....is there anything coming out of the.... box....

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Old 28th September 2008, 06:52 AM   #5
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Hehe, I am a jester and I am always willing to push the boundries Andrew, have a look in side, let's see what happens if I move the lid a little I do love to play.

Now I could understand nics and chips in the melee associated with large numbers coming face to face with large numbers or cavalry swords beating down on infantry....is there anything coming out of the.... box....

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Hi Gavin,

This is old territory - I know exactly what's in that can, but I made myself a promise not to ever get involved in another theoretical discussion of fencing on a forum.

However..... How are the blades sharpened? If you divide the blade into three sections, how would you describe the angle of the edge? Like very sharp all the way from the hilt to point or blunt for the first third becoming increasingly sharper towards the point?

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Old 28th September 2008, 07:16 AM   #6
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Default I wont go there then Chris,

I wont go there then Chris, I do remember the read quite some time ago,

As for these blades, they both share the fine edge from hilt to tip, but the spine tapers from 9mm at the hilt to just under 1mm at the point where the fullers end then it flares again ever so slightly to 1mm whilst continuing to the tip, all the time retaining the beautifuuly bevelled cutting edge the entire length.

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Old 28th September 2008, 10:45 AM   #7
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I wont go there then Chris, I do remember the read quite some time ago,

As for these blades, they both share the fine edge from hilt to tip, but the spine tapers from 9mm at the hilt to just under 1mm at the point where the fullers end then it flares again ever so slightly to 1mm whilst continuing to the tip, all the time retaining the beautifuuly bevelled cutting edge the entire length.

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Hi Gavin,

Thanks for posting these details.

Well, then perhaps we can say with some confidence that at least the edges of these particular swords were not intended for parrying.

As an afterthought, any chance of you posting the dimesions, such as overall length, blade length, maximum and minimum blade width, as well as weight?

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Old 29th September 2008, 01:07 AM   #8
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Hi Gavin, I like to show an example of a similar looking shuang dao, that I have.
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They are fabulous in the hands and sing sweetly through the air I am chuffed
And I must agree on that, the move so good, new ones I have are much to heavy and clumsy for practice, and I was very pleased when I found these, chuffed is the word...

These looks very much the same, but hard to know just from pictures. But reading this
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As for these blades, they both share the fine edge from hilt to tip, but the spine tapers from 9mm at the hilt to just under 1mm at the point where the fullers end
I see they are much thinner at the hilt. They are 74 centimeters long, and blades are 60 centimeters, with 4 millimeters thickness, and 31 millimeters width at the hilt, giving them point of balance at 14 centimeters from the handle. The condition is very good but with a few nicks, but it sounds like I shouldn't dwell on that, seeing that there have been heated debates although that looks like its from play, not actual usage...
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