Kris Restoration Process

kai · 2nd September 2008, 09:03 AM

Nice job, Jose!

Just curious: Isn't this a Sulu kalis seko? Why do you call the clamp by the Maranao name (baka-baka rather than asang-asang) and also use a non-Sulu crosspiece design?

BTW, when does this hilt/pommel design show up? I don't think I've seen that with old (like pre-Span.-Am. war) kris.

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 2nd September 2008, 09:26 AM

Kai, I'm not sure I would call this Sulu. The "mouth" does not suggest this to me. I thought it to be Maguindanano, though a form that can look Tausug.

As for baka-baka vs asang-asang - you got me.

I used the term as a short cut or short hand for all the clamps. Guess I need to stop cheating on the terms.

The hilt design - that was from the indentations on the wood. I have seen this on turn of the century pieces before, though I admit uncommon.

Battara · 3rd September 2008, 03:09 AM

Here is a close up of the finished wranga:

Ferguson · 3rd September 2008, 03:35 AM

Jose, I'm the one who should be embarrased, talking "engineer speak" to an artist!

I sent an email hopefully explaining my question better.

Nice work sir!
Steve

mross · 5th September 2008, 07:46 PM

Jose,
I have to say nice job. It is more then I ever expected for that kalis. You have restored it to the dignity that it had before it fell on hard time. Thankyou.
Mike

Battara · 6th September 2008, 04:04 AM

I am so pleased that you like it.

Robert · 8th September 2008, 03:37 AM

Absolutely beautiful work as always. Thank you very much for sharing the process of the restoration with us.

Robert

2nd September 2008, 09:26 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Kai, I'm not sure I would call this Sulu. The "mouth" does not suggest this to me. I thought it to be Maguindanano, though a form that can look Tausug. As for baka-baka vs asang-asang - you got me. I used the term as a short cut or short hand for all the clamps. Guess I need to stop cheating on the terms. The hilt design - that was from the indentations on the wood. I have seen this on turn of the century pieces before, though I admit uncommon. Last edited by Battara; 2nd September 2008 at 10:06 AM.

3rd September 2008, 03:09 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Here is a close up of the finished wranga: Attached Images

2nd September 2008, 09:03 AM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Nice job, Jose! Just curious: Isn't this a Sulu kalis seko? Why do you call the clamp by the Maranao name (baka-baka rather than asang-asang) and also use a non-Sulu crosspiece design? BTW, when does this hilt/pommel design show up? I don't think I've seen that with old (like pre-Span.-Am. war) kris. Regards, Kai

3rd September 2008, 03:35 AM	#4
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Jose, I'm the one who should be embarrased, talking "engineer speak" to an artist! I sent an email hopefully explaining my question better. Nice work sir! Steve

5th September 2008, 07:46 PM	#5
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Jose, I have to say nice job. It is more then I ever expected for that kalis. You have restored it to the dignity that it had before it fell on hard time. Thankyou. Mike

6th September 2008, 04:04 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	I am so pleased that you like it.

8th September 2008, 03:37 AM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Absolutely beautiful work as always. Thank you very much for sharing the process of the restoration with us. Robert